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Old 11-17-2017, 01:05 PM   #3376
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Re: Phil Ivey wins 7.3m GBP in London, casino refuses to pay. Ivey sues. Loses Case. Appeals. L

I'm glad I caught up on this thread, been a thoroughly entertaining read this morning. All in all I think the lawyers ITT have it right although it would have been nice for the casinos to have been screwed.
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:23 PM   #3377
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There should at least be a formal procedure for refusing payment.
All non payments/fund seizures have to be reported to the UKGC.
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Old 11-17-2017, 01:46 PM   #3378
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All non payments/fund seizures have to be reported to the UKGC.
I remember asking the UKGC under FoI how many instances of cheating at poker had been reported to them (also a requirement at the time). They said that none had been, despite some obvious examples having taken place at their licensees. So I will take reporting procedures with a pinch of salt. In any case if the UKGC won't involve itself in a dispute, only mandating access to somewhat suspect dispute resolution organisations or suggesting legal action, reporting seems to be of limited value. The recent 888 thread would apparently have been reported them and there were plenty of now vindicated customers told that their funds were to be seized and not supplied with the reason.
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Old 11-17-2017, 02:21 PM   #3379
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I remember asking the UKGC under FoI how many instances of cheating at poker had been reported to them (also a requirement at the time). They said that none had been, despite some obvious examples having taken place at their licensees. So I will take reporting procedures with a pinch of salt. In any case if the UKGC won't involve itself in a dispute, only mandating access to somewhat suspect dispute resolution organisations or suggesting legal action, reporting seems to be of limited value. The recent 888 thread would apparently have been reported them and there were plenty of now vindicated customers told that their funds were to be seized and not supplied with the reason.
The UKGC is an executive non-departmental public body of the UK government, in other words it is the government.

Draw your own conclusions if this is a healthy state of affairs, not being truly independent, particularly when there were accusations of corruption when under Tony Bliar's/Gordon Brown's government many aspects of UK gambling laws were significantly relaxed in 2005. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1893328.stm

New "powers" given to the UKGC and the genius phrase "When The Fun Stops, Stop" were heralded by the government as a panacea to any problem gambler issues and to keeping gaming operators in line with regulations and the law.
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Old 11-17-2017, 03:28 PM   #3380
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You need to stop assuming people you are conversing with in this thread i. are not competent to argue with you ii.
Trust me, I do not assume you are incompetent to argue anything to do with the law and or the Ivey case. I KNOW you are incompetent and what's better is with every single post you make you prove me right!
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Old 11-17-2017, 03:35 PM   #3381
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I remember asking the UKGC under FoI how many instances of cheating at poker had been reported to them (also a requirement at the time). They said that none had been, despite some obvious examples having taken place at their licensees. So I will take reporting procedures with a pinch of salt. In any case if the UKGC won't involve itself in a dispute, only mandating access to somewhat suspect dispute resolution organisations or suggesting legal action, reporting seems to be of limited value.
Since you clearly didn't realise there was a formal process that has to be gone through for reporting seizures you might want to stop with the continued uninformed drivel you are pouring into this thread.

The reporting is mandatory and it is not of "limited value". The UKGC is the charging authority for gambling offences. They are the ones who decide if anything is taken further on a criminal level.
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Old 11-17-2017, 03:53 PM   #3382
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Trust me, I do not assume you are incompetent to argue anything to do with the law and or the Ivey case. I KNOW you are incompetent and what's better is with every single post you make you prove me right!
Blah blah blah make a post with some substance, if you can.
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Old 11-17-2017, 03:57 PM   #3383
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