Has there ever been a single poker player that did something meaningful for the poker community after a site they represented made then rich and then robbed the players?
I am not saying give back ALL the money that they made, I am not living on fantasy island, I mean anything meaningful at all?

UB?
AP?
FTP?
I am sure there are more sites i don't know , and it is a mortal Lock there will be more in the near future . Any player ? Ever? I really am curious

He doesn't know.

Nobody ever knows about any wrongdoing.

Everyone is innocent.

What a world of stand-up people we live in.

Completely un-self-serving statement by him.

About the same time Lederer, Ivey, Ferguson, Juanda, Cunningham etc... return player money they never should have received in the first place from Full Tilt... In other words never.

i think we should start blowing up his twitter feed for this one...i already sent him a few messages...

What is a "standard wage"?

I'm not sure how Phil's relationship with UB worked, but if Phil Hellmuth was employed to to do a job and endorse a website along with other activites his wage was likely standard for a very famous sponsored pro. Just as other people employed by UB had standard wages for their profession.

I was under the impression that as far as we know he was kept in the dark about the cheating. If this is the case what is the difference between a marketing employee learning about the scandal and continuing to convince the public to deposit and Phil Hellmuth? Does earning more money make it more wrong?

FYI I'm undecided about the situation, and was asking Noah a few questions.

IF he was not part of any cheating and worked hard for the company, did his job, should he not feel as if he earned his money? However unfortunate it is that other people lost theirs.

Where is Annies statement?

I stopped following him this morning...A massive drop in followers.

E-Z game.

"I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here" -Captain Louis Renault (Claude Rains), Casablanca

"Round up the usual suspects" -Captain Louis Renault (Claude Rains), Casablanca

http://www.vincasa.com/casabla.pdf

NICE! make sure you send him a message too...phil doesn't like to be criticized or like being known as the bad guy...

No ****, that bitch droned on incessantly (as she is known to do on virtually every subject) about how stand up UB was and then *poof* gone

Annie Duke ‏@AnnieDuke 18h

I had access to the delayed viewing of cards only for a few UB tournament events where i was a radio commentator.

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This delayed viewing was made this public during those broadcasts and is standard practice for WSOP commentators for live events also.

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Sad a few folks making accusations and assumptions without fully appreciating this.

Excuse my ignorance but has it be determined PH knew about the cheating and continued to be the face of UB?

Some new poker site starts up, licensed in Aruba. Do you deposit money on it? You find out it's represented by Hellmuth/Negreanu/Beckham, do you deposit money on it? Clearly you're (weakly) more likely to deposit given the latter piece of information.

Honestly this is a nice song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9y5eY1hKuE
"It isn't easy, words don't come easy" so that should shut all you haters up!

I am glad UB paid Hellmouth to dress up like a gladiator and be carried in by women and eating grapes ... also to drive a car around and run into a pole .. the WSOPs have never been the same since. It is hard to your bosses are crooks when the checks are good.

Phil is in line to be the face of WSOP.com IMO. There is little likelihood of going backward and applying penalty, but he should not be the face of online poker in the future.

Also his crimes are far worse than any lock or FTP pros ( munis Jesus and Howard)

Funny I thought WSOP mentioned how this was new to the industry within the last few years, can anyone clarify if this lying snake is lying yet once again?

Sad that you are just a lying C@#*. Must run in the family.

AFAIK none of the money stolen from players was put back into the company right? It went right into the pockets of the people doing the stealing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The operating budget of the company (employee salaries, marketing... Phil's wages... etc..) came out of the rake taken in at tables. Again correct me if i'm wrong.

I'm in no way a Phil Hellmuth supporter, but in which way did he profit from this crime (unless of course someone has proof that he was in on it)? And why should he feel an obligation to pay that money back?

The man had a contract, and he fulfilled that contract, he deserved to be compensated to that extent.

You are wrong. Listen to the tapes.

This is actually true in 2 ways:

1) the superuser money was partially used to pay operational expenses, as Russ mentions on the tape

2) ub, like ftp eventually did go broke and players did not receive their balances

Durrrr offered to give back his money from ftp, though he never actually did since stars and the doj are handling player repayments.

Has it been determined when the recording was made? And when did she do these radio commentaries? rounders radio just had their 6th anniversary, i believe that is where ub related radio took place

If Phil actually believed there was cheating at UB in early 2008, I am really straining to see what he actually gained by remaining at the company. Had he left, I'm sure he could have received a huge endorsement contract from a number of other sites. Given that there is really no evidence that he had any actual involvement in the cheating, it seems that those of you demanding he give his endorsement money back are basically expecting him to accept a negative freeroll in this spot.