Yeah someone handing you 40% of their stack with 0 chance to get it back is such a bad outcome

It’s like you’ve never lost with aces before or something

you haven't done the math, have you?

lol

fixed your post

you're welcome

Could it be that, he's a good husband, so good things happen to him?

Seems unlikely

IMO, if you never cheated on your wife, you deserve do occasionally beat 99 with Q4.

He probably had an incorrect read that the guy had a weak hand and 3-bet like BB vs. BTN. He just forgot to consider he was pot committed.

Hellmuth does not play that well technically, and it is not just new theory. He never has and does not in games other than NLHE. In tournaments he plays a log of amateurs / donks and grinder type pros. He also plays Internet players who are not good at hiding tells and trying to play by formula.

He played most events every year for years. Doyle boycotted the WSOP for several years and mostly just played high buyin events. Chip Reese rarely played tournaments. Most top cash players do not bother playing every $1500 buyin event and making multiple rebuys. 17 bracelets is impressive, but not sure what it makes him the GOAT of.

And if you have constantly cheated on your wife for decades you also deserve to occasionally beat 99 with q4o.

Even if you murdered your wife you still deserve to occasionally beat 99 with q4o.

Ghandi also deserved to occasionally beat 99 with q4o

Etc...

this contradicts hellmuth's own recollection of events as per a doug polk podcast i recently watched. i believe it was this one. i've heard him deny this claim on other occassions as well. what is your source?

Whatever. My point is that 17 bracelets is quite an achievement, but they do not make him a really top player. He does not play well technically, but is excellent with reads, and has a tricky aggressive approach which works in tournaments. This hand is an example of all that.

making stuff up and presenting them as facts isn't "whatever".

Whatever. This hand gives an idea of Hellmuth's approach. He does not play well technically, but good with reads and bluffs. In tournaments, you deal with amateur players and grinders who wind up playing for a lot more money than they are used to, so they can be bluffed etc. It was an OK 3-bet with this hand based on a read if not pot committed.

Robbi is only the Runner Up GOAT "cheater". The real GOAT "cheater" is no other than Phil Hellmuth.

Here is the smoking gun hand that Coinflex Meister Doug Polk should be investigating, and Joe Ingram should be doing an Emergency Podcast on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLt...hannel=PokerGO

Very suspicious that Hellmuth only has a one armed jacket. What is he hiding in there? A vibrator?

....or did he just mis-read his hole cards?

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2023/...t-17-43971.htm

What will Phil's haters say now? See below.

How many high rollers has he won? He’s the greatest at donkaments, that’s for sure.

He’s one of the handful of people who have played the $50k PPC 10+ times and are in the profit.

I think he knows he is $EV- in NLHE high rollers.

You’ve been a member since ‘08 and think a 5k flippament means something

Lmao what is with tournament players and loving to do carveouts like “most WSOP bracelets in Vegas” or “profitable in this very specific tournament playing x amount of times”.

Oh, did he just win one? Sorry, I thought he won almost twice as many as anyone in history. (Plus 61 FTs including many 2nd places.)

And do the $50K+ flippaments mean more than the $5k and $10ks?

I was responding to a very specific comment about him not winning in high rollers.

To be fair, he hasn’t won a PPC, but he’s profitable after playing it 13-14 times.

I also think it’s one of the better tournaments to highlight as it’s been at least a 5 game mix and often an 8+ game mix. Furthermore, it has almost exclusively elite competition and a slow structure.

The PPC only runs once a year since 2006 (17 times total), so as always LOL sample size.

I would also like to add that I’m neither a “tournament player” nor a Phil Hellmuth fan.

He’s clearly the best tournament player of all time. People don’t like to admit it because he’s such a jerk and may not understand GTO as well as some of the current people on the scene. But his record speaks for itself. Is he the most knowledgeable tournament player out there? No. But the best? Absolutely.

Help me understand that when the bulk of his WSOP bracelets were essentially 180 mans back when everyone sucked at poker. This is why you guys think he’s the best…