hmm. if development has been whats slowed them down then thats on them and sounds like they either mismanaged it or just had handful of people devoted to it vs correctly sized team. developing that sort of code is widely understood craft.

I just assumed slowdown was regulatory which is out of their control and always takes longer than you estimate.

gonna listen to his pod now to read his soul, then I will know the truth

I'm far from an expert in this area, but if development is easy/straight-forward, why do 95% of poker sites have software that is a steaming pile of garbage?

Because it's easy to write code but difficult to get design and usability right.

Compared to other fields in software development, the number of competent UI designers is surprisingly small. I bet everybody in here visited an online shop or website of a multimillion dollar company today and thought "wow, their UI really sucks".

@Adebsi

Software development is like a lot of professions, there is a progression in level of qualification/experience required to
1) do it
2) be the boss and hire the right people to do 1) and supervise / mentor them
3) be the boss's boss and hire the right boss to do 2) and supervise / mentor them

If you're not qualified to do 1) yourself, you're certainly not qualified to do 2) i.e. interview candidates and select someone to do 1) instead of you and when you're talking about getting the right head of IT in 3), it's just a joke.

Investment is another good example, if you aren't qualified to invest your own savings then you aren't qualified to select which managed investment fund has the best professionals either. The amazing thing is, that the more likely someone is to be aware they can't do 1) or 2), the more likely they are to think that choosing 3) solves all their problems.

I haven't got to that part of the Galfond podcast yet but he's probably attempted 3) and didn't get lucky.

Your analysis is correct, but with such a big project and a lot of resources/funds you can hire plenty of good people around you, including hiring someone who is qualified to hire the right people to do 1).

And if you don't have the expertise to know who that person is, then you can hire someone who is an expert in recruiting the person who is qualified to hire the right people to do 1)

Obviously this hire to hire principle could be taken on to another and yet another stage and into infinity!

This is 3) in my post.

This doesn't solve the problem either as you aren't qualifed to judge the expertise of that person.

That's kind of the point I was making but thank you for your contribution as always.

The American way.

I wish him the best of luck.

That's something you hear a lot from people that do 1). Never from somebody who does 4) or 5).

Well, this sounds like the debate among blind men arguing over what an elephant looks like.

Having helped create and then launch and run a successful, (read profitable) poker business from scratch, it certainly was useful to have, at one time or another from early on, performed every function of the process (except write code). However, step 1 ability is not sufficient and other disciplines need be added/hired/partnered etc.

Settling upon a vision and reasonable path to launch are essential upfront. If the vision is sound, the rest is execution.

There are a ton of decisions and actions which arise thereafter, and many mistakes will be made along the way; but an adequately capitalized venture can weather most mistakes if they are recognized and corrected.

What can be fatal however is a paralysis and inability to make decisions, right or wrong, and move ahead.

A moving launch target is neither good nor bad in and of itself, what matters is why there are delays or changes. Frankly, no one in this thread really knows the "why". A turn to fantasy sports may be a shift in focus t a different venture or it may be a means to the original end of launching poker. Speculation over that twist is just prattle.

He's a massive hypocrite and shill.

How so?

They probably allocated a huge share of the available development resources to the DFS project.

1. Claims to be about fairgaming/fair play on the up and up yet built his bankroll on deceiving/cheating millions from that billionaire.

2. Claims to be about supporting and maintaining the poker community yet founded a giant poker training site which 1. negatively impacts the gambling community and 2. sucks out money from the community and never injects it back in.

3. Claims to be about keeping fish happy / creating a gambling atmosphere yet 1. outed the biggest fish on mass media who was slow paying and 2. most recently ran an all in pot 4 ****ing times on a tv show

4. shills promotes his training site at any opportunity despite knowing what a ponzi it is

5. makes up bs stories about slow development times irt his poker site... yet launches his very own DFS.

dude is a scumbag

Yes but it's probably necessary. There are just too many charlatans around at all levels though of course one can get lucky and stumble upon the right people. I agree with the rest of the paragraph btw.

Your perspective as a lawyer would be interesting though. How should I as a businessman (not in your jurisidiction) with no expertise in the legal profession (i.e. without step 1) go about choosing which lawyer to instruct? (i.e. doing step 2)

Can you explain point 1 and 3 some more.

Throwing random words together and hoping it makes sense.

Have Stars just put that final nail in the coffin by what looks like them stopping rake back altogether? I haven't read everything regarding these new chests, I don't play Stars but can somebody confirm they stopped RB across all stakes?

If there was ever a time to launch!! For fook sake you couldn't ask for a better script could you!!!

Phil's interview with JoeInGram looks promising, he seems to genuinely want to create that poker site that we all have been dreaming of. A site that looks at individual stakes and adjusts the rake accordingly, so each level can be beat. That's exactly what needs to be done.

We need all these up and coming cod4/ps4/pc/candycrushing/facebook antville gamers to see poker as a game. Some will see it as more than that but if the majority see it as a game with levels we might just be onto something.

Damn. NVG has always been a tough crowd, but you know it's gotten bad when it demonizes Phil Galfond of all people.

I've seen your name/avatar combo for years now and liked it/noticed it for some reason. Now that i finally know where it is from, i like it even more. Cheers.

Not hating on him for it....... but tbf running it 4 times on PAD was pretty ridiculous, and more so from someone whose company is called Run It Once!

ZZZZZZZ

This thing has lost all the momentum (this is assuming it ever did have any momentum outside the 2+2 crowd). Once Galfond has decided to wake up, nobody will even care anymore.

People think Galfond is a genius just because he has a nerd face

This always happens on poker world, if he didnt use glasses and had a regular face/body people wont expect much from him

Actually Phil is far away from his best times, he had a lot more money years ago

He is not even top 10 anymore on the games he plays

Was going to write something about how it's never had any momentum outside of what we have put on it with unreasonable expectations... but then I re-read the link in OP. Dear me, why on earth post with a "Coming Q1 2017", giving yourself a mere 6 months deadline, if it wasn't already basically in the bag, ready to go.

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"