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09-01-2016, 07:40 AM
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#101
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: i have a belly button
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Re: Phil Galfond is launching Run It Once - Poker
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
That is awesome news for us consumers!
But man, its gonna be tough... I know Phil is smart and I'm sure he knows how much money he will have to sink into a new poker site like this and if he thinks it's gonna work, then I'm happy he's the one doing this. But I am kind of a pessimist on this... I wish him and the whole team the best of course!
If it's really going to be "only" a skin, then Phil can't do anything that he's talking about in OP.
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He may not be sinking a dime.
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09-01-2016, 07:41 AM
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#102
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Outdoors
Posts: 2,731
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Last edited by TonnaMunz; 09-01-2016 at 07:41 AM.
Reason: Amazing, lets do it philly G!
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09-01-2016, 07:48 AM
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#103
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enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 62
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
If US players cant play then IDGAF!
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09-01-2016, 07:51 AM
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#104
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 99 problems but a TT+ just ship pf
Posts: 6,757
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
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Originally Posted by Joe Tall
This is a massive undertaking/investment. I see Q1 2017 noted, either it's been in the works for a while or they bought a poker platform and are tweaking it/rebranding it. I guess is #2, which can be a massive challenge. (see Ultimate Poker in Nevada, and many others.)
EDIT: or #3, it's a skin of a current network like iPoker. My money is on #3.
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Unibet did it in nine months with a small external dev team from scratch.
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09-01-2016, 08:14 AM
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#105
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: the Oswald Correctional Facility
Posts: 574
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
woaw great news..pls accept the turkish players so we can play without any concern and suspicion..good luck with your new venture..
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09-01-2016, 08:25 AM
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#106
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old hand
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,403
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
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Very good but Teh*
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09-01-2016, 08:37 AM
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#107
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: CSKA
Posts: 805
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
awesome news!
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09-01-2016, 08:39 AM
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#108
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: CSKA
Posts: 805
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
I'm 100% sure Phil will succeed on this. Not even a doubt in my mind
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09-01-2016, 08:40 AM
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#109
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Skjervoy
Posts: 3,756
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Should be having Phil back on the podcast in a couple weeks when he can discuss more details about the project
LFG!!
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Very good! Your podcasts game have been awesome last months.
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Originally Posted by kelnel
Dare I hope for a reasonable PLO rake?
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Joey you should adress this with PG.
One key to make this work could be to give players the old pokerstars feeling where they feel wanted and that the site listen to them.
They could gain a huge edge on competitors if they did rake PLO same amounts of bbs as NL (and a more healthy enviroment) = more fair PLO rake.
If PLO friendly influencers like Joey sold that message it would be very good for this new site.
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09-01-2016, 08:57 AM
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#110
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adept
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 897
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
thanks god! GL!!!
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09-01-2016, 09:01 AM
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#111
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: I AM CAPITAO
Posts: 19,352
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Sounds pretty awesome. I hope it succeeds.
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09-01-2016, 09:04 AM
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#112
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veteran
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 2,481
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Can anyone clue me in on why this is such great news? Are we expecting it to be Stars with lower rake? Won't reg infestation still be a problem?
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09-01-2016, 09:09 AM
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#113
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adept
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 718
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
with reasonable rake this could traffic some HS regbattling action from PS, but meh for lower stakes.
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09-01-2016, 09:20 AM
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#114
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See my staking forum thread
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: all across Asia
Posts: 7,715
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Hoping for teh best, expecting teh wurst.
Overall teh 1st good onlinepokerelated news in 5 years. If anything they might be able to force stars hand in rgds to rake if they implement something reasonable. Might give online poker a year or 2 moar. Im excited!
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09-01-2016, 09:44 AM
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#115
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newbie
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 27
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
I suggest not to allow HUDs at the site and maybe have some basic built-in HUD with something like VPIP/PFR/3b/hands. Or not even that.
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09-01-2016, 10:01 AM
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#116
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: CSKA
Posts: 805
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
HUDs have nothing to do with recreational players. It's much better for reg to reg wars and even then i dont use much.
I think the focus should be leaving hud (it adds a strategic element to the game imo), and reducing number of tables?
Also, the biggest challenge is how they re gonna atract rec players. Because regs already know this exist (hence why HUDs should stay). But recs should have incentive to try this new site
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09-01-2016, 10:02 AM
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#117
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adept
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: East Coast
Posts: 836
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
I think that unless he is willing to open the site to US players the chance of success is going to be far less then it would if it was a site for US. The market is basically already cornered by stars, 888, ACR, and Ignition etc. Was very excited at first to hear the news but without offering US players into the player pool I have a hard time seeing this being a successful site. But best of luck to PG and hopefully one day they will be in the US along with the rest of online poker sites.
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09-01-2016, 10:02 AM
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#118
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adept
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: London
Posts: 838
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Basically gonna be all RIO type training video regs, all relatively competent poker players - so where are the fish coming from? You do all realise no games will run without fish.
Stating the obvious here but Mid-high stakes cash games on EU networks SUCK in comparison with say, Bovada. For the simple reason, nothing to do with the software/site/front man of the site, its that there are very few fish around and ratio of reg:rec is skewed heavily to regs. We all know the reasons for this, mainly because of stupid legislation & ringfenced countries but also because we are now post-boom and we are also in an economic slump compared to the boom era. I play and have played across a lot of sites at mid stakes and they are all pretty terrible and nothing like how it used to be or even close to what Bovada is, stating the obvious again. Without fish the games will be like Stars and 888, where not a single games runs unless a fish is there. The only positive is he could ban 3rd party software such as seat scripts and HUDs. Rake is obviously a factor but even then unless there is a clear edge, people aren't going to battle it out.
If this is part of an already established network like ipoker or Microgaming etc then just lol. I dont think hes stupid enough to do that so it wont be.
I was sort of hoping it would be an unregulated (but transparent to the players and run efficiently) US & ROW site kind of like a Bovada but open to all and partnered with a sportsbook, of course thats not going to happen unless all the owners want to end up in jail.
I cannot see how this would work. Being a 'nice' and 'respected' member of the poker community doesn't mean a new poker site in 2017 with all the aforementioned issues, will actually work. Sorry if that's a negative view and hope I'm wrong because I would love more options on where to play (if there are fish), so I do hope it does work out.
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09-01-2016, 10:12 AM
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#119
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veteran
Join Date: May 2005
Location: michigan
Posts: 2,322
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Many have died on the cross for trying to run a poker site. I wish him the best of luck
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09-01-2016, 10:20 AM
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#120
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veteran
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,129
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
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I cannot see how this would work. Being a 'nice' and 'respected' member of the poker community doesn't mean a new poker site in 2017 with all the aforementioned issues, will actually work.
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09-01-2016, 10:22 AM
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#121
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: IndONEsia
Posts: 862
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Hope SEA country rec fish like me can also play there..
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09-01-2016, 10:23 AM
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#122
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adept
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: IndONEsia
Posts: 862
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Hopefully,a SEA country rec fish like me can play there too..👍👍
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09-01-2016, 10:25 AM
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#123
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adept
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Unibet Poker
Posts: 1,086
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Hoping for teh best, expecting teh wurst.
Overall teh 1st good onlinepokerelated news in 5 years. If anything they might be able to force stars hand in rgds to rake if they implement something reasonable. Might give online poker a year or 2 moar. Im excited!
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If you are happy/excited about it then it must be great news. I am happy now too.
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09-01-2016, 10:27 AM
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#124
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Jellybean
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 4,050
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Tall
This is a massive undertaking/investment. I see Q1 2017 noted, either it's been in the works for a while or they bought a poker platform and are tweaking it/rebranding it. I guess is #2, which can be a massive challenge. (see Ultimate Poker in Nevada, and many others.)
EDIT: or #3, it's a skin of a current network like iPoker. My money is on #3.
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absolute grunch on my part , but
1) Phil Galfond comes across as top top both as a player and more generally as a human. wish him nothing but the best
2) aside from development efforts (whether you make or buy) unless Phil wants to run only in unregulated markets, then the licensing alone is a multi year endeavor, so unless he started that in 2014, Q1 2017 is fantasy land.
Question? Could someone own and operate a real money online poker site (skinned or not), operate in unregulated markets (what operators would could call "yellow market"), and remain a U.S. citizen in good standings ?
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09-01-2016, 10:32 AM
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#125
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,509
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Re: Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site
in galfond we trust
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