When are you adding plo20? There's nobody at plo4 ever and the gap between plo10 and 50 is too big. I can't be bothered to play pl10 and plo50 is too high for my bankroll.

Lol

If you fix the sit out bug more people would be willing to move a greater percentage of their play/roll to your site.

Please let me know when this happens.

Totally understand. It's top of the list, and I'll let you know!

Bugs are not as bad as people have made it out to be seems pretty smooth so far on my end

I have played PLO and NLH on RIO poker and overall experience has been good. Splash the Pot brings that "one more hand"-feeling in play, just wanting to play just a little bit longer to see whether that extra 100BB comes in the middle.

Only software crash I have experienced is when I make changes to bet slider settings in the middle of session. Everything freezes and I have to kill the client from Task Manager. This happened three times straight.

Deposit bonus with no time limit is definitely nice thing also.

Phil, I would like to hear how you plan on fighting bots and colluders.

I have played a bunch on Party and it is so obvious that there are a bunch of bots playing fairly loose pre, colluding postflop, applying pressure nonstop and so on. Now the question arises, why those bots don't play nearly as much on Stars and it seems like that the ability to actually get stats on them helps a lot for us players to identify suspected bots and therefore report them.

Because RIO does not allow us to gain data on our opponents, I don't feel confident playing at all. In addition to that, I know that bot rings avoid Stars but feel confident playing on smaller networks, because there is less security going on.

Ah-ha, good to know, thanks Phil.

I'll be moving over my roll in two separate currencies - neither is Euros, so just trying to figure out the most FX rate effective way.

+1 wont even think bout playing in RIOP if this is not fixed, also the hit n run is so annoying.

Sheit's trash and rigged like all the other sites

good post

maybe i'm checking in at odd times, but i'm a bit disappointed in the lack of enthusiasm from the "oh, we show the big companies that regs are starting the games and are the most important players"-crowd i read so much about on 2+2

Maybe because a Unibet-like site isn't exactly what the majority of REG's want. For me at least it was clear that i won't play on RIO in the very moment that the announcment of anonymous tables was made.

Yeah I wonder if they opted out for a simpler more functional software without that avatar expression things and without being anonymous just with a flat 30% rakeback like FTP (27%?) had back in the day, it would probably have much more success at the beginning.

Also having MTT's and lauching with a mtt series (that seems all the rage these days) with a good promotion it would have been a nice boost.

On the other hand maybe this strategy of lauching small would work in the long run in combating bots(?) but I'm skeptical. Anyway with the publicity and anticipation it had in the poker community I really thought that it would jump to one of the top spots on the sites that track average number of cash games, but I think overall the strategy wasn't good. I think amayastars is more worried with competition from party that had a big increase in its numbers last year. Let's see if party can compete for a big share of the market for real.

Numbers are dwindling. I have checked the site throughout the day and only seeing 30-50 players for both NL and PLO. That's not good!

Will check again in the evening.

It really is surprising that they went with Anon tables when the regulars are the best method of uncovering bots on most sites. From what I understand Bovada is a bot fest and I expect RIO to be the same at some point.

highest stakes running is 20nl during peak. they can't be raking more than a couple hundred dollars a day, how long can they stay afloat hemorrhaging money like that?

I wonder what the plan is for increasing traffic. As other's have said, a tournament series would've done a lot to bring in new players. it might lose money, but RIO is definitely losing money every day right now. maybe they don't think the software can handle a lot of traffic yet?

19:00 in the evening and plo has 20 players while nl has 80. Not looking good imo.

I asked this question before: How can we check RIOP is indeed giving back 51%?

It would be interesting if they just made the rake 2% and got rid of splash the pot if things would pick up

We got promised "The Dream" very early on...

The Dream cleary was, is and always will be sitting on Rail Heaven with a Screenname, everbody fears and respects.

Forcing us Regs to battle it out on low Edge anonymous tables(Anonymous forces us to take lines we think are GTOish, other Reg will counter with the same, high variance low edge and high rake are the result), not even with low net rake, never being able to study other Players... excitement is dead for me, long time ago.

Unrealistic to call for lower rake at this point. The site is currently not getting enough traffic as is, lowering rake will just cost them more money.

A lot of bitching ITT about getting rake raped but this is still the best rake in market bar unibet’s 1% rake at NL4 only. Not to mention the splash the pot promotions that give 80% rakeback (1.15% effective rake!!!). If rake really was what powered traffic then every cash game player who plays online should be on RIO.

If anyone wants any hope of getting 2% rake as standard in the future, they should be putting in at least some volume on RIO even if it’s NL4. Do we really want AmayaStars, Rakeback-Points-Stolen-Party Poker fighting for the top spot?


I like the anon tables. I like being able to “just play”. The musical chairs dance of regs leaving tables once the fish leaves is exactly what RIO is trying to avoid. The point is that it will attract more recs who won’t feel preyed upon.

Mpn has lower rake than rio and up to 30% rb.

Well imagine if they had a bigger playerpool with the current issues? You think the random recs are coming back anytime soon after experiencing all sort of bugs. They are running a beta version of the client for a reason.

Wrote a ton of a notes about general bugs/usability problems after trying RIO during the launch date. (Never got around making an actual post about it. Think I have 'em saved somewhere; dunno how much software has improved since.) Gave it another try about a month afterwards, and some of the same issues were still apparent.

That being said, I would be tad uncomfortable playing my regular stakes (which don't run) there even if tables were filled with weak recs (which they aren't) with the amount of bugs/crashes I encountered during my first try.

I understand it's a beta, but people are wagering their own money. (Albeit it being small stakes atm.) Hence there should be zero-tolerance for software crashes.

But remember Galfond is a pro and he played poker the same way he has created his website! That's the dream, that's the way he played poker back then. Fighting for rake back and playing vs anonymous players(bots), while relying on the websites own features for those soul reads! Bro it's the real poker dream that he himself experienced!!!