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02-25-2019 , 06:23 PM
If you're worried about losing $4 then poker might not be for you.
02-25-2019 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cheehc
Why was $4 (euro) the min buy-in and not $2 for NL? Likewise Omaha at $10 euro min buy-in

2NL is level 1 for me. If i deposit $50 i don't want to have only 12 buy-ins at 4NL... or 5 nuyins at Omaha... 30mins later ill lose and uninstall due to being forced to play high limits with my small bankroll..

Call me a nit.. but as a casual player I want to play on the new site (2-4 tables) with some chump change and see how I go at level 1.. when RIO poker is currently full of sharks...

Pretty sure micro stakes is where a lot of the StreamR viewers (new players) would also want to start..
The lack of microstakes makes this a barrier for me to want to come play and for my wife to approve deposit amounts
Just deposit $100


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02-25-2019 , 10:51 PM
How is the site doing relative to expectations? Pokerscout has it as the #36 worldwide site with currently 55 cash players and a 24h peak of 267. Pokerstars NJ and Merge are right behind it, for comparison sake. Seems like ok traffic for a brand new site, but I'm guessing they were hoping for better.

Splash pots seem like a cool idea to me to distinguish RIO from competitors
02-25-2019 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CantStopCalling
Just deposit $100


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Stupid reply!

Last edited by MikkeD; 02-25-2019 at 11:15 PM. Reason: And stop telling us what you are using!
02-26-2019 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Spin2Win
How is the site doing relative to expectations? Pokerscout has it as the #36 worldwide site with currently 55 cash players and a 24h peak of 267. Pokerstars NJ and Merge are right behind it, for comparison sake. Seems like ok traffic for a brand new site, but I'm guessing they were hoping for better.

Splash pots seem like a cool idea to me to distinguish RIO from competitors
Phil Galfond said 7/10 for his expectations (with 5 being what he thought would happen)

2/10 for High Stakes traffic, you can see this on his twitter.

I think the site is a solid 7/10 so far as it is still in beta, I can only imagine in 5 years time what it will look like. They are being smart imo by starting a community of players who chat in discord and spread the word. Honestly I like a poster said above, I haven't had this much fun playing online cash in years. They have held contests in their discord and the splash the pot action brings a nice gambling undertone to the game where people start opening wider and their are some interesting spots that pop up.

I think the Avatar of the sleeping guy somewhat might have a subconscious affect on certain people as they don't want to appear to be the old guy waiting for AA. Anyway I recommend trying it out just manage your expectations and let this grow. If this site holds true to Phil Galfonds opening statement/vision he posted a couple years back, then I see a great future for this site.
02-26-2019 , 02:08 AM


Seems like a good start so far. Hopefully they can improve the software, squash the bugs, implement more features and grow the player base.
02-26-2019 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RakeRace
NEW CASH DROPS OFFERS UP TO 65% RAKEBACK AT GGPOKER!

The new method will soon be available at the fast-fold tables.



“What’s more, every so often, 500 BB will rain down from above and automatically be added to each player’s chip stack...”
Didn't took long to see your idea copied
02-26-2019 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
Didn't took long to see your idea copied
And they are adding it directly to players stacks so you don't have to fight for it. Too bad it's the gg network hopefully others will follow too.
02-26-2019 , 07:18 AM
Not sure, but i think rake at GG network is slightly lower and 65% > 51%. Obv, considering threads in Internet Poker this doesn't make me wanna play there…..but still, quite a beat for RIO imo. Something what was unique for them got copied and improved before they are even out of beta.
02-26-2019 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
Not sure, but i think rake at GG network is slightly lower and 65% > 51%. Obv, considering threads in Internet Poker this doesn't make me wanna play there…..but still, quite a beat for RIO imo. Something what was unique for them got copied and improved before they are even out of beta.
GG also already has the VPIP shown at the tables, not unlike the avatars on RIO.

I agree GG seems rather scummy, atleast for cashgames. But they're definitely a fierce competitor, especially as they already accept crypto - and most action nowadays is driven by that, atleast in the higher stakes I feel. I am fairly certain that's why highstakes action is only 2/10 expectation, atleast that's why I'm currently not playing on RIO.

Last edited by PUezMoney; 02-26-2019 at 09:03 AM.
02-26-2019 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PUezMoney
GG also already has the VPIP shown at the tables, not unlike the avatars on RIO.

I agree GG seems rather scummy, atleast for cashgames. But they're definitely a fierce competitor, especially as they already accept crypto - and most action nowadays is driven by that, atleast in the higher stakes I feel. I am fairly certain that's why highstakes action is only 2/10 expectation, atleast that's why I'm currently not playing on RIO.
GG-poker would be gr8 other than the fact that they ban winning regs at mid-highstakes.
02-26-2019 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by doctor877
GG-poker would be gr8 other than the fact that they ban winning regs at mid-highstakes.
Not to mention that your bankroll is at risk 24/7 if you are a winning player.
02-26-2019 , 12:02 PM
zero chance that ggpoker's rake is lower, they rake pre flop for god sake, and rake cap is super high, it's like 10$ at 5/10 rofl
02-26-2019 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Not to mention that your bankroll is at risk 24/7 if you are a winning player.
I cannot understand how UKGC hasn't fined them yet. They state in their own terms and conditions that they can seize your account, ban you or suspend you for hit and running, bumhunting and ratholing.

It's also extremely curious how everyone that is having their roll taken away always seems to have a few k or more in the account.

MMasherdog had $25k taken from his.

edit: To be more accurate they can seize your account for "predatory behavior" which is not limited to the aforementioned ones, theoretically.
02-27-2019 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
Not sure, but i think rake at GG network is slightly lower and 65% > 51%. Obv, considering threads in Internet Poker this doesn't make me wanna play there…..but still, quite a beat for RIO imo. Something what was unique for them got copied and improved before they are even out of beta.
Before posting you should spend a very brief moment, literarily less than a minute and see how obscenely high GG rake is:

https://help.ggpoker.com/article/170...entage-and-cap

Not only are their caps ridiculous they also rake single raised pots with no flop.
02-27-2019 , 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JossoDee
Not only are their caps ridiculous they also rake single raised pots with no flop.
Well this is not true. They rake 3bet pots preflop not singleraised. Or has this changed?
02-27-2019 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Well this is not true. They rake 3bet pots preflop not singleraised. Or has this changed?
They rake any pot =/> 2.5 BB(as per link attached in my post)
02-27-2019 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JossoDee
They rake any pot =/> 2.5 BB(as per link attached in my post)
Well someone who plays gg atm can probably confirm that they don't rake singleraised pots preflop.
02-27-2019 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Well someone who plays gg atm can probably confirm that they don't rake singleraised pots preflop.
Thanks for clarifying. Do they not rake single raised pots for both Hold'em and PLO?(The attached sheet is for hold'em although their PLO structure sheet has the same note)

However, even if rake starts with 3 bet pots that's still atrocious.
02-27-2019 , 07:34 AM
they dont rake pots where you just steal the blinds, any resteal is raked
02-27-2019 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JossoDee
Before posting you should spend a very brief moment, literarily less than a minute
Why?! I remembered having seen the number of 5% in relation with GG. As i was not sure, i expressed it that way. Why would i invest a minute or less in researching something what means nothing to me. Don't have plans to play on either site. To calm you down: i also hope RIO to be a success, it just doesn't happen to be a site on which i would want to play.


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Originally Posted by FR-Nit
Not sure, but i think rake at GG network is slightly lower
02-27-2019 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil Galfond
I'm happy with our traffic, but obviously, we're still a new site. We haven't had consistency yet at higher stakes or during low volume hours of the day, but we're going to work towards it. Have you played some? I'd love to hear your feedback!
I have played - I was a private beta tester and left feedback on discord. I have also played a couple of times since. Traffic was very good on the first few days but has, understandably, dropped off since.

I am planning on moving my roll over and take advantage of the bonus but I'm a little reluctant at the moment until the site gains a little more traffic. As I type, there are only 8 players at the 20NL tables, so it's not the easiest to get to play at my preferred stake.

Typically, when is peak time traffic?

I think the site is great and good for poker in the long term. I wish you every success.
02-27-2019 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by c_the_dog
Been playing all this last week. Its the most fun I have had playing online for a long time.
When you play live you want a fun table not a bunch of nits, playing this week has felt the closest to that live experience. STP feature is great, the small splashes are a nice bonus and the big ones bring some fun gamble to the table, keeps everyone a bit looser and the action going.
Awesome! This is exactly what we wanted the experience to be. I'm so glad you're already feeling this way already.

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Originally Posted by JimmyRare
Can't wait to play! Any updates on the swedish license application?
We're still working on it. There may be more roadblocks than we anticipated because there's a chance they don't approve of Splash The Pot. We're investigating this with our fingers crossed. I'd love to add the Swedish player pool soon if we can.

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Originally Posted by seemetouchme
I think the site is a solid 7/10 so far as it is still in beta, I can only imagine in 5 years time what it will look like. They are being smart imo by starting a community of players who chat in discord and spread the word. Honestly I like a poster said above, I haven't had this much fun playing online cash in years. They have held contests in their discord and the splash the pot action brings a nice gambling undertone to the game where people start opening wider and their are some interesting spots that pop up.

I think the Avatar of the sleeping guy somewhat might have a subconscious affect on certain people as they don't want to appear to be the old guy waiting for AA. Anyway I recommend trying it out just manage your expectations and let this grow. If this site holds true to Phil Galfonds opening statement/vision he posted a couple years back, then I see a great future for this site.
Thank you so much

It really means a lot to me (and the team) when people share their enjoyment of the platform, especially of the things we've chosen to do differently than everyone else. We put a lot of thought into those decisions and getting players used to something new isn't easy, so it's so nice to hear when players like yourself and c_the_dog feel the way we intended players to feel in our games.

Like you said, we're still in beta and we're working on a whole bunch of improvements, so I hope you'll continue to like the product more and more as we perfect it. GL!
02-27-2019 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd


Seems like a good start so far. Hopefully they can improve the software, squash the bugs, implement more features and grow the player base.
Thank you. Though we're still a small site, I'm very happy with the start - we've got a solid player base who are, on the whole, really enjoying the site. As we continue to improve the software, ramp up marketing efforts, add deposit options, licenses, and game types, I expect our player base to grow consistently. It will take time to reach the "final product" as I've been envisioning it for years, but I'm optimistic about our chances by the time we get there.

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Originally Posted by JAF000
I have played - I was a private beta tester and left feedback on discord. I have also played a couple of times since. Traffic was very good on the first few days but has, understandably, dropped off since.

I am planning on moving my roll over and take advantage of the bonus but I'm a little reluctant at the moment until the site gains a little more traffic. As I type, there are only 8 players at the 20NL tables, so it's not the easiest to get to play at my preferred stake.

Typically, when is peak time traffic?

I think the site is great and good for poker in the long term. I wish you every success.
Thanks so much, JAF000, and I totally understand. This is the catch 22 we're up against right now: Many players ready to move their play over to Run It Once as soon as the traffic at their games is consistent, but we need players to get that traffic consistent in the first place

We'll get there, I'm sure, but it may take some time and a number of stakes. I think once we get that consistency at a given stake, we'll see a lot of growth from there.

Our daily peak is usually about an hour from the time of this post. As a wider range, from 1-2 hours ago until about 3 hours from now.

Thanks again for the kind words and for your eventual consistent play

No rush - do what is best for you. We'll try to get our games ready for you soon!
02-27-2019 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JAF000
I am planning on moving my roll over and take advantage of the bonus but I'm a little reluctant at the moment until the site gains a little more traffic. As I type, there are only 8 players at the 20NL tables, so it's not the easiest to get to play at my preferred stake.

Typically, when is peak time traffic?
Update: 73 players across 13 tables of 20NL right now

      
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