I don't know who did what.

What your suggesting is called positioning.

YTD 2016 results, PLO:

^ hi Phil!

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well ben86´s been out of luck on that sweet money then, as im pretty sure galfond havent offered any more pieces to him after him going savage on his ass. also 1,900 hands in a year speaks some selective gameplay doesn´t it ? sad panda everyone that puts in serious volume is opted out aside from the KING (sad state of affairs when 23k is being #1 of the non-opted outs)


LONG LIVE THE KING


edit; dont take me for a galfond hater just because I think nosebleeds would run around him, it´s just the state of the game nowadays. Galfond is probably one of the top20 brightest minds in poker, jungle, sauce, ike being top-top. He would do well in any game outside nosebleeds. And I certainly think he can wing it in most formats, esp mixed at a bit higher than exclusively a certain format, guy isnt devoting enough time to the game(s) any more, for good reason. ****, hes gonna open a site and have other business endeavours. Guy crushed poker for years. It´s alright to step back and let others do the warring, and just bumhunt it a lil bit while making some real-world monies/career. In my opinion he done the right move, its going to drain anyone staying at the top for years/decades. Unless your jungle.

This is obv just all speculation as I dont know **** other than what polk claimed ben said about him, but I dont find it strange at all he falls of the hiearchy of nosebleeds when hes not fully devoted to it anymore. That said, he still is very much capable of banking some serious money in poker outside of hs/nosebleeds playing any lineup(bumhunting hs+). He absolutely ****s on me obv and 99% of the playerbase.

Haha what a douche you are. You incorrectly say someone is wrong for calling a pricing strategy part of marketing, then go on to say it is actually another marketing strategy.

Keep up the good work!

Yeah, no.

I was calling out the OP on calling a very specific (and absolutely obvious) concept of positioning regarding value, a marketing strategy.

Neither would be considered a marketing strategy.

But what do I know eh? #Entrepreneurlife

looks like its coming soon


https://gyazo.com/9d96848dc44a698f87d6876a14fdbc1c

website lunch, eh? so around noon on new years then?

To save money, the copy-editing is being done by the same guy involved with LuckyChewey's site.

No. It either has sufficient recs or there is no traffic at all.

Nothing like a good old 1200 hand sample to confirm the ability of a poker player.

Welcome to 2+2 where variance is just an inconvenient truth and we all live through short term results even though they mean nothing.

twitter account looks cheap ... so the first try to confirm (if it's real or not) brought up this

https://twitter.com/PhilGalfond/stat...51351464595456

What? Can someone explain whats the deal with RIO? Isnt this Phils site? is he rebranding? Making a new one? Not affiliated with RIO anymore?

I wanna bring up the topic of PLO rake again...the Great Game of PLO needs to get a haircut when it comes to the cost of the game. The lower stakes are not really beatable enough for money (and players) to flow up the stakes. The stories are not there at the moment, even though it's the most action-filled and exciting game out there. Good times for regs and fun players alike. I'm tired of reading about the rake trap on SSPLO forums. Time for change.

I have brought this up before with PokerStars that PLO rake should more or less equal NLHE rake in terms of bb/100. It's ridiculous that that at lower stakes PLO rake = 2xNLHE rake and few players are moving up, some of them mostly based on variance (bang bang).

Here are threads with discussion and support on the topic:

Rake analysis between PLO & NLHE incl. Zoom

POKERSTARS: Time to treat PLO and NLHE as different games!

Petition - PokerStars: Lower the price of PLO Zoom

View: Negreanu should look into the PLO rake situation as promised on J.Ingram Podcast


There's a chance to make a huge difference here.

Well before a site can decide on how to rake PLO there has to be.... well a site.

As it stands there does not appear to be a site.

I don't know in which world you live, but i give you 0% chance with Stars and Dnegs. Dnegs clearly has no say, he is the sponsored trophy wife. They just pay him because Baazov would have stuttered like a choking dog and might have to reveal that he doesn't even know what a flush is.
Dnegs is a marionette.

Especially as a MOD you should not contribute to the illusion that less experienced members here have.

Discussion and protest is weak and only works if you have a partner who actually wants to make you happy.
Pokerstars and Dnegs are NOT an honest partner and discussing with them is a waste of time. You legitimize their strategy by taking them serious in the first place.

Can you point to even ONE thing that they have changed (post-Sheinberg era), where the community was not played like stupid amateurs.
Usual game of stars is:

1) We increase rake by 100%
2) Community "outrage"/ "protest"
3) Ok, we "listen" , only increase by 50%


The 2 new guys wanting to start new poker sites, I do take them serious in their good-will. They do love the game and they do care about not turning it into a slot game with poker cards.
Whether they succeed or not is a different story, but it has a higher chance than stars listening.

Today they don't even do step 2 and 3 anymore. This should tell you everything...Dnegs even admits they are just stealing.

If somebody treats you with so much contempt and you try to "negotiate" with them, you deserve what you get.

I might have to take charge of this. Pokerstars is certainly not the first place to go after, but we need a big clean up.

Stars is the biggest site, for many people the only choice to play. They are maybe the biggest opponent, but not the first to go after. You have to do this in a smart way.

But maybe this has to be done, but we have to get rid of weaklings in the community first.... those who want to negotiate, have conference calls or even let themselves be paraded by traveling to stars headquarters.

i think he just posted it so ppl could read about the trap/unjust structure of micro/lowstakes plo that he hopes RIOp doesn't fall into as well, i have no idea why you're criticizing his post, nobody believes in stars anymore or has hope for their future

+1

+1

^^^sAy it aint so.

Some people say RIO is not very innovative, but if they needed you to remind them about rake structure at any game...

"falling into the trap"... That's exactly what I mean. People honestly believe that a multi-billion dollar company just "fell into a trap" - when creating their rake structures. It's probably a dumb move longterm - i hope that they will pay a price for their short term stock-scheme-scam... but it's certainly not an accident...

That's like saying a kleptomaniac fell into the trap of stealing.

Anyways buddy, we're on the same team. And maybe, just maybe... we need some real change....

the structure is the trap. nobody believes stars accidentally over raked some games, if that were teh case the rake would have been reduced at some point afterward, i think you're just confused man, i guess i could have worded that particular sentence differently but you're just looking for a place to vent so i dunno if it would have helped

the only thing that have less of a point than your posts is possibly my own responding to you

New Post from Phil: http://www.runitonce.com/chatter/ref...onces-biggest/

It sounds like Q3 at the earliest, and no specifics until launch, although confirmed it's new software and not a skin.

interesting read, ty for linking it here.