That's true, but if you think they're not onside with big business then you're mistaken. It's basically licencing corporate greed, turning a blind eye to malpractice for monetary reasons. They may or may not advertise a reputable outfit like RIO on TV here but they are still as bent as a 9 bob note. Everybody knows this.

You can't be serious? Let's take stars. The games die instantly when the fish leaves. And it's close to impossible to get a seat with the fish without a script. Instead of crying like how was it better way back in the day you can allway get a job at donalds or you can try getting better and evolving with the game. Your choise m8 but the good old days ain't coming back. And you should blame 3rd party tools and training sites about that.

Blame all the ****ty governments of the past for what happened to poker.. Can you imagine playing stars with the americans, the french and italians? Good old days.

Ya I noticed that the other day. Seating scripts at 10 NL. I was gob smacked. I thought that **** was only happening at High Stakes.

Zoom is literally the only way forward. Those games are fast in fairness and the fish are distributed evenly amongst the players.

I dont know I guess I felt like Run it Once was going to be a good site for regulars to play on, but the more I hear about it the less excited I am.

Table caps, no HUDs, anonomys players, silly distracting donkey avatars. Even stars sounds like its a better site for the regs.

At least on Stars I can play 12 tables at a time with my HUD with clean software and I can spot the Brazilian Donkey at my table

that is exactly what rio does not want to happen. stay on pokerstars and keep autopiloting. seems like you are enjoying it being a slave for pokerstars

I guess it will not be summer 2018 :/

So will this site ever launch? Has Galfond made any announcements on the rake structure?

no, he is just posting updates for fun. nothing to see here

he hasnt made any announcements on the things that actually matter, like rake or rb structure, launch date.. oh wait, the launch date was Q1 2017, it must be the new pokerstars already by now

In his podcast with joey some time ago, if i remember it right he said he want end with strong update about important things like rakeback and bonuses so i assume it will be last update.
Would think rake/rakeback system will be very good one or it will be disaster almost certainly as he is targeting heavily regulars/semi-regulars with this room and positioning his room as one who cares about beatable games.

could be "the best" rake system ever ... if RIO Poker doesn't get a decent amount of ppl willing to deposit and lose the money, there isn't much money to make.

but hey, all those "i've just de-installed PS" & "Regs are running the games" guys, who tell "everyone on twitter/twitch" about RIO, should be enough to make this a instant success, right?

There should be no rakeback at all. Just let us pay the 'correct' amount for the sevice offered, thank you.

Totally agree

Yeah no rb and smaller rake% is more fair and transparent for everyone but i really doubt that will ever happen.

you know, what you are saying sounds extremely fair from any ignorant and rational point of view. but i am also trying to start up a website and it was slated for early q1 2018 and I have no idea when the actual finish point is any more. so I guess I just have a ton of sympathy for him. development is ridiculously time consuming, mentally demanding and expensive. you start off thinking you just do such and such and you have a site but then you go down a rabbit hole of development possibilities and things never end. bottom line, if he says he's working on it i'd give him the benefit of the doubt from personal experience.

I think table cap is great, especially if you guys want HU to be existant on galfonds site. It removes the "cumicon"-effect. Where the absolute endboss takes all tables from $2/4 to $200/400. With a table cap of 5 HU players have to decide what stakes they want to focus their energy on so a weak reg/bumhunter can squeeze in every now and then which in turn also invites for more fighting between weak regs for a opensit, or if they are a mix of 5/6max and hu they have to divide their opensits/joins between these. This makes ringgames also better as you wouldnt find the 3-4 very best regs on every table running from $5/10 to $50/100 which in turn makes it easier for weaker regs to move up and eventually bust obv but still, had a fighting chance when they dont share the rec spot with 3 barons everytime, this is assuming games are running enough.

in short, game quality increases for everyone when a few selected endbosses cant control the whole lobby.

ahhh the good old'days I use to slaughter the French & Italians HU all day everyday lol the absolute worst players i have ever encountered in poker, Americans were just terrible to

there is a big difference b/w RIO and your website: RIO chose to put out a mission statement for their product early in advance in order to market the site to potential customers and utilize the then-current market sentiment towards competitors.

http://www.runitonce.com/chatter/a-poker-site-should/ (almost 2 yrs ago)

this is why all the usual cool "dont feel entitled to anything *****" posts are out-of-place -- it's reasonable for potential customers to build expectations in the first place after reading that, and subsequently complain if they already feel lied to, and this forum/thread is a good place for that.

and it doesn't feel like phil&co are actually learning from their mistakes, both in terms of organization as well as communication:

https://www.runitonce.eu/news/1-an-update-and-a-plan/ (April 2018)

https://www.runitonce.eu/news/4-decisions-decisions/ (August 2018)

yawn

They still are loose at micros and we have the Brazilians also. And the Eastern Europeans (more on the tight solid side). Generally, the Americans are pretty much the (many) types of opponents I like to play against (maybe not the uber-nits). They are easier to play against.

The games that are tougher are the aggro games and the tough games.

P.S. Is RIO Poker going to offer also NLH cash or will they all be PLO and NLH offered only in tournaments? I might have read it wrong but looks good to me.

"The games that are tougher are the tough games" lol

Maybe they care more about sustainable growth than crushing the online poker scene right out of the gate. If anyone is hoping they kill Pokerstars, it ain't happening, but there are ways to be successful without doing that.

And the aggro games. The main point was that I didn't refer to nationalities when the games get tougher. But will see to that again after I have played them enough.

at this point I lost any confidence that the man is competent
he messed up so much on different frontlines

"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him, we have the technology..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLs0V8T5AA