Probably something on one of ingram's podcasts?

It can't be this hard to get a poker site up and running? Why hasn't their been a public beta or even an alpha testing invite... to bump things along. At this rate, his going to have a finished product ready for late 2018/2019 with innovation from 2016... all that money invested and no rake churn. With an explosion of blockchain and vr around the corner. ouch.

They have started hiring for customer service staff so I reckon the launch will happen reasonably soon. No need to have CS staff if there are no customers on the horizon.

http://www.runitonce.com/chatter/job...-at-rio-poker/

For anyone interested in the job ads.

We can only hope that the recent allegations of botting, collusion, and other various forms of cheating on Winning Poker Network will cause RunItOnce to place a greater emphasis on keeping its games clean.

i dnt think this will ever happen

It will happen 2018...

Did Phil ever say if the site would be available for US players?

I believe I read earlier in this thread that it won't be available to US players.

Galfond is too buttoned up man

phil. Break the law, do it, break the law!

starting a poker site in this environment that does not have any issues with security seems very difficult

Is that not why they've had such delays? I thought I read they were having issues with software and security. Seems like this could be an indication that they were behind the curve of even the existing sites.

Nope, it's impossible being behind in terms of security as long as sites like IPoker and ACR exist. RIO is probably behind the self-set level of security/software they wanna provide and therefore the delay.

You can't "design" the security in totality. It must evolve through testing. This project either doesn't understand that, or its still nowhere near a launchable stage. Phil should be jumping aboard and emerging hybrid/p2p project-he is in danger of trying to launch a software that isn't secure and can't scale imo.

Phil probably has realized starting a poker site is not profitable in 2018

This thread in nearly 2 years old. I would have thought if a new poker site would want to get to market ASAP in this phase of the online poker business cycle. Im a big fan of Phil but what are the odds this poker site never see light of day?

RIO Poker is going to take over the online poker world soon.

Come on, you are shilling coinpoker which has no security team, no real software and say that Galfond will not make something decent?

How do you pinch a decent chunk of the fish from Stars?

That seems like the problem that needs to be solved to me in order to start a new Poker site in 2018. Otherwise you are just another tiny site amongst a sea of many.

^ Either
a) partner with a sports book or
b) produce and sponsor TV poker shows (e.g. own live poker series coverage like EPT) in heavily net-depositing markets or
c) accept you can't and offer zero rake poker as a courtesy product to attract people mainly to cross-sell something else (casino, sportsbook).

once runitonce will opens pokerstars will die

Unfortunately this. The upside just isn’t there for poker and gets worse every year. If wpn could afford a state of the art security team and system they would. My guess is they make barely enough money to pay the bills and the CEO / owners keep the rest which might be nice for an individual but probably not a lot.

What do you mean "unfortunately this", when the site is still moving forward? The job posting for the top customer relations job was up just a month ago, does this sound like the actions of a company that has no intent to launch?

Here's what I would do with a new site -

Cash games only. Focus on being the best at one thing.

Heads up and 6 max only. The more favoured games so consolidate the pools more. 9 handed cash is boring.

Speaking of pools. I would have speed Poker only, the fairest game in today's world of mass collusion, bum hunting etc.

Game types. No limit Holdem, PLO and Rotation / 8 Game.

Buy in from 100 to 500bbs. Rake structure caps out on 400bb pots. Incentive to play deeper. Also bluff 5/6 bets should be a thing!

More incentive - Stradlling. Rotation of other fun things like 72, win the button, etc.

Further incentive and the main kicker. Rakeback is 50%. However it is randomly distributed to the tables. So for example 10bbs might be thrown into the pot at the start of the hand. So a bad player might average 20% rake back but a really good one could get higher than 50%. This obviously changes strategies a lot.

All contributes to more fun gamble, but also deeper skilful game tree. 100bb Poker is a tired game.

Rake back is collected in tokens which are used on the sites slot machine casino game. Regular cash can also be used to play. 90% pay out. Chance of winning big.

Optional membership for monthly fee. Custom games. Create your own table with many options. Make private if you wish for HU battles etc.

Also in membership. HUD, bet script, advanced tiling script etc. ALL EXTERNAL SOFTWARE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.

Cheers!

Crap from the beginning to the end.

Yes just remove the one format that recs actually enjoy and can still occasionally have success at, tournament poker. That'l work for sure!