Phil Galfond offers HU battle to anyone at $300/$600 PLO (general thread) - Page 4 - Poker News

Does #3 in Bill's proposal mean Phil can watch the stream after they finish playing? Either way, sounds hard to enforce other than relying on honour and good faith.

Considering that if Phil wanted to cheat he could load up a ****ing superuser account I'd say it's probably pretty safe to ask him not to watch a stream lol

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11-20-2019 , 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon93PCTSure

Thirst lounge
It's a bunch of popular poker players
Don't think anyone is Phil's Caliber or near it

I have no clue how Bill wants to do this that they swap
- maybe he wants to have more people per account like he's done on ACR so Phil doesn't know who plays him haha

I enjoy the thirst lounge but none of them are even in the realm of Phil's world. Most of them are probably not winning players above micro mtts, Drew is a competent mtt player but would probably struggle at highest stakes. Matt Forsythe is a slightly above average cash player. The rest will miss the mark. I would be interested in seeing if bill ever actually substitutes one of them in.

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11-20-2019 , 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BeHumble!

I can think of 40 people or so off the top of my head that would have quite a big edge.... That wasn't always true, huge disparity from what it used to be. Losing to that many ppl, many "no names" in poker fame is the definition of getting "destroyed" vs takers.

A lot of people in this thread are claiming that Phil is significantly outmatched against today's HUPLO regs, but is this really true? He was battling some top regs at 25/50 Zoom recently and there didn't seem to be a massive skill deficit, but I'm not qualified to provide a confident answer.

Are there any well known Mid/High stakes HUPLO regs in the thread who can confidently speak to Phil's current skill level?

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11-20-2019 , 06:21 PM

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@PhilGalfond
1 day since I posted my HU Challenge & I have 11 challengers & counting! Blown away by the response.

If anyone was worried about the high stakes battles not happening, you can relax now.

If you want to challenge me, hurry up! Hope to lock in & share some battle plans publicly."

https://twitter.com/PhilGalfond/stat...74751208587265

from 15 minutes ago

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11-20-2019 , 06:23 PM

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Galfond vs Fees would be epic content

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11-20-2019 , 07:34 PM

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Hopefully Phil battles one of the PLO endboss (Cumicon, Bullitos, EEE27, Grazvis1, etc) instead of the TL donks.

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11-20-2019 , 07:51 PM

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Runchuks (PLO coach from BluffTheSpot) will play the challenge against Phil

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11-20-2019 , 08:29 PM

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Epic thread

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11-20-2019 , 08:55 PM

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This is a potential disaster just like the Durr challenge . Surely at 300/600 PLO a hundred buyin downswing possible vs a grazvis/trueteller type. Does Phil really have enough to comfortably lose millions like that? Hes gonna be playing guys who have been studying solvers for years while Phil has been semi retired.

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11-20-2019 , 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by a_r_K

Think of it as a million dollar marketing campaign.

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11-20-2019 , 09:11 PM

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1million is like 18 buy ins, he already has one challenge that's capped 20 buy ins and that could be more than a million is they play the highest stakes. A loser with no cap could lose multiple millions just on a normal downswing.

This is going to be exciting!

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11-20-2019 , 09:44 PM

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Are the "11 challengers and counting" Bill plus 10 Thirst Lounge people, or 11 separate challenges in the works?

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11-21-2019 , 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by formula72

Is phil not considered a youngster anymore?

Old white man imo

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11-21-2019 , 02:46 AM

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hoping 2 see isildur

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11-21-2019 , 03:28 AM

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hoping 2 see isildur

I remember back in the day, Mr Sweets used to bum hunt Isildur1 after he was tilted and playing for super long hours. After the 16 hour mark Mr sweets would be fresh amd ready to battle

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11-21-2019 , 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH

On this particular case, wouldn´t make a lot of sense for him to try to scam ppl or whatever. Galfond seems like one of the few nice guys in poker. With that said, the mindset of trusting anyone 100%, esp when we don´t know him irl (my case at least) and have no way of independently tracking his activities, just bc of reputation, is very dangerous. Just being a little bit cautious at all times and with all ppl regardless of anything else, when there is money anr/or personal safety involved, can´t go wrong imho.

+1000. pretty sure no one sane is directly saying phil is likely to cheat, he has a flawless reputation and probably on the forefront of most honorable people in poker.

however, calling people "lol losers" for merely suggesting people to exercise caution in this situation is so ridiculous, honestly reflects on oladipo's intelligence level and/or him being overly emotional and thus clouding judgement.

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11-21-2019 , 03:52 AM

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Galfond has sat in the 25/50 huplo pool on stars on stream and it by no means took off in the way it does when an actual bad players sits. I don't think the 40 people you're thinking of agree with you that they have "quite a big edge" thus.

If you had said 10 people that'd be reasonable - guys who hold lobbies, like vvv, grazvis, r4lti, wruum, eee.. NOt sure where the additional 30 you're thinking of come from, because they sure didn't show up to play Galfond when they could

edit: welp, scratch my whole post I guess if Galfonds above tweet is right that he's getting a lot of offers lol

Jokes on me..

Yeah... there are def ATLEAST 40... also you didn't even name the current best hu plo players in the world in your short list...

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11-21-2019 , 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by elendil200

I remember back in the day, Mr Sweets used to bum hunt Isildur1 after he was tilted and playing for super long hours. After the 16 hour mark Mr sweets would be fresh amd ready to battle

Yah I remember this too, actually found it a little scummy, but poker isn’t really a gentlemen’s game so whatever

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11-21-2019 , 05:21 AM

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The whole thing seems like a failed marketing campaign.

So Phil knows he has no edge against all the players, who will sign up for it. There is zero chance he will play NL and in PLO he knows that he will end up losing a lot vs gto regs and even guys like cumicon, who already retired.

So perhaps he will only end up playing against regfish such as Bill or vs Regs who get paid but will send their winnings back.

Or he did some maths and losing 1 mil+ doesn't seem as much compared to the marketing boost he will get for his site. I assume he won't even be playing with his bankroll if the whole challenge is fully connected to RIO.

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11-21-2019 , 07:48 AM

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Unforgivable! Especially for taking all the money at the top of the food chain that'd never see it's way to the people who actually worry about bumhunters

. You think Guy's money was going to $400nl to keep the ecosystem going?

Why would this make him untrustworthy in any way? Not sure why that's in bold.

Untrustworthy was the wrong bit to highlight. I def think he is trustworthy.

However I really wanted to hihglight the comment about him only ever done good for poker or whatever fanboy rubbish the guy was saying. He also bumhunted Isildur after Isi was tilting and had played mammoth sessions as the above poster mentioned. IDGAF about that or Guy, kudos to him I wouldve done the same if I couldve, and actually respect that part of the hustle/grind - but lets not make out hes only done good for poker. Hes just as predatory as the rest of us (who were bumhunters) but he seemed to b made out that hes some poster boy for the good of poker. Get a grip

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11-21-2019 , 08:11 AM

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Bumhunting is just common sense. Why would he (or anyone) want to swap rake with a bunch of Eastern Europeans who probably cheat anyway?

**** paying them off.

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11-21-2019 , 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by insyder19

You do realize you're talking about the same guy that lost millions in mixed games and razz "to learn them"

and consistently loves the game
now he gets to have action and gap the EV deficit by marketing equity.

Obviously playing Bill+his squad of donks is MASSIVELY +ev for Phil

Vs crushers he gets to have a great time and actually low cost with viewership and attention he will attract as added EV.

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11-21-2019 , 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dappadan777

What do you want him to do? Not take the chance to play in games that hes highly +EV in? Your comments are ridiculous lmao

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11-21-2019 , 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BeHumble!

Yeah... there are def ATLEAST 40... also you didn't even name the current best hu plo players in the world in your short list...

I just mentioned the stars lobby holders I could think of and threw in r4lti cuz he's swedish

I don't know who the actual top HUPLO players are (other than the ldo cumicon but he's gone so)

edit: ok, I guess I throw in berri. Linus may be good. Don't know if he and TT are top players in huplo or if they just like battling eachother. I didn't even mention sauce for example since he's excluded from the start by Galfond

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