Yep, fair enough.

If you dont trust party to keep the games clean then obviously you'd not play, which seems to be the point people are making, and I would respect that, what I don't get though is where the suggestion that they are shady and up to no good comes from - as seems like 0 evidence to me.

I still maintain having someone try someone new is good for the industry, because it really needs it.

See party poker past actions

Ya lol

Even if you agree with the changes this is very true , before the changes no one trusted party, shady in like million diff areas , then gangster rob has a hallelujah moment where he says he now magically can spot bots so no hh is needed , and ppl just gonna take his word?

How has he become so reputable ? Has he done anything in the past to get this respect ?

Mostly bad/mediocre regs being salty about HUD ban. PartyPoker is regulated in many countries, so its not like they ban HHs and hide some bot-conspiracy scheme...that is not so easy to do

people should stop playing there

simple

Partypoker has no plans to re-allow huds or hand histories.

I mean, they almost copied pokerstars 4 table max rule.......LOL

If the intention behind this nonsense was really to create a fairer environment (spoiler: it wasn't), they sure would have ****ed it up good again. I don't understand how anyone in their right mind can defend them, when they have this huge history of lying to their customers lol.


Some questions (would be a LOT more if I still played there regularly ) :

- why are there still HH-numbers in the replayer? they shouldn't exist anymore, right?

- why is sharkscope still tracking everything, they said they wouldn't allow it (lol)

- what is Matt Staples talking about, when he says on stream: "I can't wait to review this tournament" ooops

- why were the party-sponsored pros able to keep their original names after the SN-changes?

They are shady. Just go to live chat and all you'll get is lies and lies. They even lie about their promotions regularly lol.
One of the worst customer experiences in the business and that's saying something.

For promotional reasons?

Rest of the questions: you probably dont understand how MyGame works. Hands are still tracked, but you dont get them in txt form.

Party still collects and records all the hand histories, they're just not available to players.

Matt Staples may manulaly record his sessions.

Re-setting screen names was to protect the fish from the notes regs had made when they had access to HUDs. Obv if everyone knows who you are anyway then there is no need to change sn.

1) I tried to keep my SN and the client wouldn't let me. "SN already taken", so I changed it and assumed everyone had to change his.

2) This my game-thing isn't very helpful, when all you can filter for are different timespans and it doesn't show the correct potsizes. I win a 100k pot in a tournament it says potsize 0.83$. Also no way to filter for certain tournaments as far as I can tell. You get all hands from a day lumped together. Thanks


But you know what, that's all besides the point... The big thing here is this button clicking (Rob Yong, John Duthie etc they all admitted to just try stuff out and see if it works or not...) and the mess that is their "communication" with the customers. How is any rec supposed to know what's going on here? What they've done is once again completely intransparent.

They work together. Run from it Bino, É TRETA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUiC...ature=youtu.be

What will Rob tell us?

Author of the software claims its an undetectable real time HUD+GTO advisor for any site that you can buy for 20usd/month or 400usd lifetime. Seems legit.

-ban HUDs
-players start using third party HUDs from the black market that this ban created

could it have been more obvious?

-ban BOTs
-players start using third party BOTs from the black market that this ban created

could it have been more obvious?

HHs would be nice and all, but at least let me focking know my results without having to email support every single day. This is beyond ******ed.

Detection is the issue here.

Rob Yung seems to think they will be able to detect players using programs to screen grab (or whater other method) HH's and display a HUD... even though they did not manage to catch players using HH convertors for ~3 years.

This inability is why they got rid of HH. It's laughable stuff.

https://gyazo.com/148798d90cde80bac1...nuM3ufv0DCgWZ8

Lol amazing if real

As if there wasn't enough reason to not play on party, I just cashed out $915 and lost $42 in conversion, so gross.

Was that a fee by party or by the bank/e-wallet you cashed out to?

You can change the currency of your party account to $/€/£ and your party account currency should match the deposit/withdrawal method you use.

There is no fee for buying in and out from tables even if your account isn't in $.

It is the height of hypocrisy ban trackers. I still want to say that the game there is fairer, joke of the century.

Some dark interest behind it.

I cashed out in my own currency (NZD) which means the conversion was done by Party. And it was probably 2x more than if I had let my bank do it (which happens on 888). Good to know in future so I could cash out in USD, if I was ever going to play on Party again...

Check out rob yongs twitter and vote if you want hand histories back!!!!!!!!

Iam listening Joey podcast and at min 26 he says he knows all the illegal huds used on party poker, that he has a team on groups and sites like 2+2 trying to buy huds and he is sure he can deactivate all huds. Why the hell does he need to lie?
This is not true at all.
You are not doing your job of protecting the players who dont use hud´s from the ones using it. Just admit ffs cause the problem is all in this topic. You have to work better in policing this kind of software. If you were sure you can find them you would allow people to have direct acess to HH´s. No one really cares with HUD´s and tbh pt4 and hm deserve what they are getting and what they will get when stars also bans him for being greed and allowing HUD´s with a lot of add ons, poker pro huds that "talk to you" street by street.
If they were really concerned with people security they would have start talking with poker rooms on finding a balance, a kind of hud with limited info. If some of you dont know what iam talking about just look to the twitch of RYE just as an example and check the HUD´s they are using. Thats not poker at all, thats close to use a bot.