Those are on top of regular cashback (I emailed and asked)

More veneer from Party, the great veneer company, just like their live events.

For 99.9% of people this really makes no difference.

It sounds like any 12 month period. So If we opt in after Feb 1 each person 12 month block would be different correct?

Bring back HUDs and I'll grind there all day.

More like remove the idiotic system in reg tables with the anon handhistories you can easily bypass.

Any idea if you can take cash instead of those packages?

They have *zero* intention of changing their hud policy and are well aware of the issue.

I am guessing this could get some 200ff and 500ff pools running more often

Agree. Botfarmers must be so happy atm.

how? ) what do i need to google :P

I wish they would do something about the mountain of Eastern European bots grinding as low as 25nl. Have reported people and the PP game integrity team don't even reply.

Also, there are people selling tools that bypass the anonymous HHs in huds.

https://www.***************/partypoker-hud

While they may be pleasing some of the regs with all these promotions they are only making the recreational's get owned faster. I certainly don't think PP are doing enough in terms of security either.

Only going for Diamond Elite if they have an Aston Martin in the shop

Party should really read the reactions of this thread and imagine comparing it to a thread made by Stars offering the reinstatement of the SNE program if that was done today. Despite the Stars hate on here... all would be instantly forgiven.

Despite offering the same thing that so many players were furious at Stars for removing their seems to be little love for Party Poker itt.
"To perceive is to believe". In the poker business this is what an operator should be focusing on as the truth really doesn't matter.

1) People perceive that PP is riddled with bots.
2) People perceive that there is rampant collusion.
3) People perceive that illegal software is rampant.
4) People perceive that some stables are given preferential treatment.

Out of the 4 it's probable that there is some measure of real truth to all of them. But the perception is that there is a lot of truth to them.

Instead of focusing on huge spending to please and encourage the vast majority of players in sections 1-4 from above... why not spend that money on fixing the perception of the other 99% of your player pool.

5) People perceive that their software sucks
6) People perceive that their support sucks
7) People perceive that they don't GAF about any of these issues, given their total lack of responsiveness to relevant threads (e.g. the PPL$ debacle)
8) People therefore just give up on PP and won't be enticed back by silly gimmicks like this one!

At this exact moment when I scan lobby of PS, 200z and 500z is ~110 and ~30 people respectively, Party Poker equivalent is 4 and 20 people.

Feels like a catch 22 situation to me.

I feel this is a positive step to better online poker. Just because pokerstars is the largest doesnt make them the best. History is full of the biggest players not actually being best for the whole. Partypoker, nor any operator is perfect nor can be by nature of the beast that is online poker. I feel they are doing better for the game both in live games and online these days. I certainly think the hate on PP is overblown and the hate towards stars is underwhelming. *shrugs* Just my virtually useless opinion

I could never imagine anyone reaching this on party poker how it currently is, not enough games run, the software sucks so bad -basically the worst, unless recent changes, the bots are so rampant , provably more then half players are bots,

Sounds to me like they are desperate for some legitimate grinders to actually play in their games. At the moment from what I've heard it's mostly stables and possible bots making up the numbers. Perhaps if they address this issue first, real players and recs will start grinding there.

honestly, if you played 500+, this wouldn't be very difficult to do by normal working standards.

i did 100k points last year in <500k hands (NLHE cash games only) i'm pretty sure. probably around 800 hands/hour.

It makes no sense.

If Party don't care about high volume grinders why offer this VIP level.

If Party do care about high volume grinders why don't they listen to what everyone here is saying about what a ****show their anon cash tables policy is with the associated higher level of undetected bots and cheating regs using hh converters.

this.


how does one opt in for this btw?

Is there any serious topic on bots of party with some actual evidence?

Do small stakes players still have to rake $25 before they get any sort of cashback? Seems like thats something they'd want to address first

Why? As a small stakes online player I see nothing wrong with that. Want rewards, earn em.

Why is everyone complaining about the software and the HUD situation when the real reason why this new Diamond Club Elite is nonsense is that the games and the traffic are just super bad on party ????

What do you think the reason was that SNE worked on stars ???
Because there was enough traffic and fish so that the average SNE grinder was able to grind the volume and have a small wr, be breakeven or only slightly losing.

Party has been a regfest for a couple of years now and as long as theyre not able to get more traffic+recreationals this Diamond Club will be unrealisitc for 99.9% of the regs.

The fact that the software is still bad, that the no HUD policy can be easily circumvented and that they dont give a **** about the bots are making it worse ofc, but the main
reason is the traffic and the bad games.

Exactly. I would really like to grind for Diamond Elite, but rough estimation i did for playing cash fast forward is like it is almost impossible for me to achieve. I keep checking the traffic at different days/times and a lot of time highest limits of FF are not running or just few player/entries. I don't see a clear way how to comfortably grind it out, not playing various types of games for tons of hours and massively multitable. Not sure if the last thing is even possible at the party right now.

So, is there any reasonable way to achieve this, without going no-life grinding mode, unless traffic improve? Did anybody grinding spins/sng tried to estimate if it is achievable playing those?