Someone already posted an interview with Rob Yong talking about the changes and he didn't say much.

I'm sure he's a smart guy and he probably does want what's best for the game, but of course he doesn't have the same level of technical understanding of the game as someone like Ike who has played the game at the highest level and is familiar with all the software.

Put another way, I think it would be possible to Rob Yong to truthfully say that Party was capable of stopping most of the bots, and I still wouldn't believe him, not because I thought he was being dishonest but because I don't think he has the technical understanding to make that statement.

But if Ike said the same thing, that would be a statement with a lot more credibility, and it would make me (and I presume others) much more likely to play Party's cash games.

+1
Party had everything to be the substitute of pokerstars... until now
RIP partypoker

Yeah, good point imo.

I am prepared to withdraw as soon as they don t provide HHs!

Party seems to only make these announcements when they are doing away with huds etc. I remember when they removed huds from the regular tables that they suddenly made an announcement that a load of bots had been banned and they were distributing refunds. It was the first and only time I'd had anything from them. The timing made it seem like a PR exercise and it looks that way again.

Also, and this isn't in relation to your post but more of a general point, I was offered software within a couple of weeks that would have enables hand histories again so there's no doubt the cheats will benefit again.

Probably a silly question, but why (and how) would they ban sharkscope from tracking their games (as Rob Yong stated)?

I can give u a reason..
I have seen some scum of the earth regs posting a link to sharkscope graphs of recs in the player chat (to the actual rec!)to make them feel bad because they got sucked out on or some other insignificant incident ...

Players like to check scope to see if the new / unknown player is good or not. So to protect the recs.

No PR but I've seen some posts in the main party thread fairly regularly regarding refunds

Let's hope there are is no software available this time...

Creative punishment for this horrible behaviour would be something like no rakeback for 7 days, while all the "would be rakeback" money would go into some freerolls and other stuff to help the micro and rec players.

......So nothing changed?

This was posted to discord a bit over week ago :
Regarding the time lines, its with the tech management team for implementation hence the delay I can only share the info I have which is "coming soon" We are hesitant to confirm a date unless we know we can stick with it 100% I will share any update/ confirmation as soon as I can

So it's coming at some point for sure.

I have a few questions about handgrabbers.

1. How exactly do they work? I assume they are HEM/PT compatible?

2. Are they tipically available for download or do you need to go 'underground' to get them?

3. What are the odds of you getting banned for using one?

1. Two possible ways. You can interface directly with the party client (like PartyCaption) or grab hand data from screen scraping.

2. Given party is actively removing HHs, you can deduce they would not sanction such software for commercial purposes.

3. No comment.

I hope they don't implement these changes. My biggest concern is tracking my results. If I can't do it via PT4, will party supply information such as number of hands played, hours played, winnings, etc.?

I believe the my game is suppoused to be this. It's still in beta atm.

Cashed out my entire roll, depending on the news, I'll consider redepositing.

Considering the KO series runs from the 12th to the 26th, i'd be surprised if the changes weren't announced/introduced sometime this coming week before it starts or delayed until the end of the month once it's finished. I think it's unlikely they would attempt to make big changes whilst a $30,000,000 series is running...

I personally just wish they would hurry up and announce/implement whatever it is there going to do so, we no longer have all this uncertainty hanging over our heads.

#possum

Have no idea what you mean by that...

Well, either Party-support has no clue or they are knowingly missinforming. I have sent them an email after cashing out my entire roll and uninstalling the software stating that i don't like the coming changes and therefor won't play on Party anymore. This was the answer i got:

@FR-Nit:
That reply is strange foso!
i think u were a bit early on that withdraw, i ll wait till the changes go live.
Maybe that mail is made to trick you by inspiring to make a deposit and in case they remove the HHs you have to generate some more rake before you can withdraw again

By 'No comment' I assume you mean they will not be readily available? That means certain players who will be using them will have an enormous advantage over everyone else who will be playing by the book. Why play on Party at all in that case?

If Party is trying to reduce cheating then this is absolutely the wrong way to go, it will only make things worse.

This is the official discord link: https://discord.gg/UbGZ3r5.
There is a section dedicated to feedback and an admin responds to messages from users.
They can go through there and write their about your disagreement with the new changes, maybe they will deign to listen to the complaints and we can do something before it's too late.
I share in that I prefer that they make the changes once and for all, to not have more uncertainty and to know where to play in the future...

You are absolutely right!
That s why fair players with common sense will leave the site.