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how can you say that? (with a straight face)

If you're any good; then you lower his chances. If you're bad, you may wipe him out with bad play. If you time out, you slow the game down. If the site decides that players playing from the states void the tourney, and clawback wirings; he's affected.

Your comment is wishful thinking, at best. More likely deluded rationalization of your behavior.

Me being in America and choosing to play, or me flying to Canada for the day to play would result in the exact same result. You could say butterfly affect of something but that’s the main point.

Whether I play from America in the comfort of my home with my cats or waste a day flying to play from Canada. The end result for everyone would be the same in the tornument. I would play no matter what. Where I chose to play physically doesn’t change anything.

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03-28-2019 , 03:02 AM

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Habsfan09

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,552

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Originally Posted by UnbanMePlz

No. If you play illegally from the US the playerbase will only be exposed to US regs but not the US recreationals which makes the games harder. Yes you can fly to Canada and play but it costs you and you have to calculate for yourself if that makes sense.

If Russian bot rings are the problem they should just ban Russia.

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03-28-2019 , 02:25 PM

#78

JackBurton

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 588

That would be a mistake (banning people from Russia because of some bots) since they are probably the second biggest contributor to online poker after Brazil. There are many smallstakes recreational players from Russia.

As for being unfair the American players playing from US, completely right only having access to the regs and not the recs. That's exactly what happens in pokerstars.frespt and amayastars doesn't give a **** about it. But this is more noticeable in tournaments, since in cash because of the higher rake and no rewards there's no advantage in playing there.

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03-28-2019 , 02:55 PM

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Blitz_14

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Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 257

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Originally Posted by Habsfan09

If Russian bot rings are the problem they should just ban Russia.

Driving under the influence is a problem, let's ban alcohol.

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03-28-2019 , 05:19 PM

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Sir Huntington

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,354

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Originally Posted by TheGull

You say this, but the proof is in the pudding. Sites like Galfond's seem to be working well with their setup, so are you able to actually point to examples of sites who have banned huds but are unplayable due to bot infestation? As far as I can tell, the site with the biggest bot problem seems to be ACR and it allows HUDS. So where are your examples?

Bovada is anon and apparently it's filled with bots. WPN has many players pointing out bots left and right but WPN doesn't do anything cuz they don't care. At least with the site you can use tracking software you can point out the bots. Anon leaves you clueless to bots, superusers and collusion.

In a perfect world there would be no bots or huds but in this world we need tracking software and player names to find cheaters.

Galfond's site has almost no traffic....

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03-28-2019 , 05:26 PM

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KossuKukkula

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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington

Galfond's site has almost no traffic....

That's weird. Site in beta with bugs, basically no marketing and limited gameselection doesn't have much traffic. Oh yeah it must because they don't allow huds.

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03-28-2019 , 05:43 PM

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Xenoblade

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Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,085

not sure if bovada is filled with bots given it's the softest site around, bots aren't supposed to lose money

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03-28-2019 , 11:15 PM

#83

Adjusted

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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula

That's weird. Site in beta with bugs, basically no marketing and limited gameselection doesn't have much traffic. Oh yeah it must because they don't allow huds.

There was no point in him even starting a new poker client unless the US poker problem has been solved. It will be an ever diminishing small pool of pros.

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03-29-2019 , 02:35 AM

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hypergeometry

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 742

Anonymizing players is the best recipe to kill online poker, nobody with a sane mind will play in those garbage sites where there is no possible way to track anybody and know what's going on.
Also poker is about knowing your opponent styles, anonymizing player names only attract a new wave of GTO BOTS that can't be detected by any player.

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04-04-2019 , 06:30 PM

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xLAGERTHAx

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Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 497

I have today seen confirmation from a PP rep that, PP ecology changes are indeed on there way and will be announced/implemented later this month (i'm guessing sometime after Powerfest finishes).

Although I don't have any details in regards to the specifics of exactly what will be announced/implemented, it does seem that the rumors currently circulating regarding HUD's have some merit and that PP are moving to (in there view/opinion) "level the playing field for all".

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04-04-2019 , 09:27 PM

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MCAChiTown

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Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 3,532

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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx

"level the playing field for all".

So everybody will be able to use a bot then? Seems like a strange solution to me, but I guess if they want a level playing field then that's the only way to go about it.

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04-04-2019 , 10:35 PM

#87

GlutenFreeroll

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Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 85

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Originally Posted by hypergeometry

the 2nd biggest site on earth has 0 rakeback and anon tables

thx for ur concern

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04-05-2019 , 12:01 AM

#88

Adjusted

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Originally Posted by GlutenFreeroll

the 2nd biggest site on earth has 0 rakeback and anon tables

thx for ur concern

What site are you referring to?

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04-05-2019 , 12:32 AM

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xLAGERTHAx

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Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 497

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Originally Posted by Adjusted

What site are you referring to?

I wondered the same thing. Am guessing 888 as many see them as the 2nd biggest site behind PS currently.

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04-05-2019 , 02:21 AM

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FR-Nit

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Originally Posted by Adjusted

What site are you referring to?

https://www.pokerscout.com/

Should be IDN Poker which doesn't allow/support HUDs.

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04-05-2019 , 02:22 AM

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NerdSuperfly

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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx

I wondered the same thing. Am guessing 888 as many see them as the 2nd biggest site behind PS currently.

i guess he refers to idn poker ... 888 isn't considered 2nd anymore (for quite some time)

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04-05-2019 , 03:09 AM

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Bobo Fett

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Originally Posted by hypergeometry

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Originally Posted by GlutenFreeroll

the 2nd biggest site on earth has 0 rakeback and anon tables

thx for ur concern

Bodog/Bovada/Ignition also on the brink of collapse.

Anonymous player base doesn't work for everyone, but obviously it does for many.

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04-05-2019 , 03:11 AM

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xLAGERTHAx

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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly

i guess he refers to idn poker ... 888 isn't considered 2nd anymore (for quite some time)

O' ok...I'm not familiar with IDN poker so, it's not a network I would've considered. I looked it up and see it only serves Asian countries so, that explains why I hadn't heard of it until now.

My initial thoughts we're that the top 3 would comprise of PS, PP and 888 but, clearly that's not the case.

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04-05-2019 , 03:37 AM

#94

Greg20

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I think that's exactly the case for the ROW players. All other sites from the top are country or region restricted.

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04-05-2019 , 03:58 AM

#95

CorrectSide

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They killed their cash games which are apparently filled with bots and now they want to kill their MTTs too?

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04-05-2019 , 04:55 AM

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digforplenty

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik9H...Mv59HLZWyXy4xI

Rob announces changes to software including;

- all players will have to change alias at somepoint in april

- SS will no longer be able to track results

- HH will no longer be able to be data mined.

See vid around 31minutes

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04-05-2019 , 05:41 AM

#97

xLAGERTHAx

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Originally Posted by digforplenty

Tks for the posting the link.

I've just watched some of the podcast and wow!

It certainly confirms what I heard in the lead up to my creating this thread, along with some other big changes I wasn't aware of.

Seems like PP are completely cleaning house and pretty much starting from fresh in some regards moving forward...

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04-05-2019 , 05:57 AM

#98

MilkMan

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They are basically admitting defeat and giving up on the fight against Bots/solver-assisted play.

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04-05-2019 , 06:41 AM

#99

insyder19

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6,167

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Originally Posted by MilkMan

They are basically admitting defeat and giving up on the fight against Bots/solver-assisted play.

Yep, they are aware of the bots and are banning them on a regular basis yet change the game in a way to make it even easier for those to stay undetected.

I honestly don't understand why a company would want to go that way, Stars has the biggest portion of the market, yet allows HUDs and HH. Most fish plays on Stars as well. I mean if fish would be so pissed about it they would have already moved to Party or somewhere else.

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04-05-2019 , 08:02 AM

#100

4BetBoke

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,568

So the changes will just be. New screen name for everyone, hand histories can't be saved and no HUDS. No mention of a move to annon tables or quick seat only or removal of any formats.

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