Those changes still exist. Players name on the huds are just player 1,2, etc...but huds still avail on the tables.

Party will just make more money, majority of winning reg will have a slight decrease in winrate, whales deposits will last slightly longer, and the donk breakeven regs who support this change will still be donk breakevn regs

I did but u didnt read mine

HUDs are semi banned in Cash Games aka Player Names in Hand Historys are anonymized.

Alright Thanks. And yeah Regs had HUDs with actual Screennames probably a week after those 2016 changes.

Big no to you 2nd paragraph, average Reg will buy new Screengrabber or whatever is needed and it will be available 10 Days after whatever changes^^

But ure right, honest Regs will suffer or leave and whale deposits might last a bit longer.

So they throw me off of Party and then make it better?

Yeah, you originally said they we're banned (not semi-banned).

It's a little misleading/confusing saying that, because there neither banned or semi-banned, there allowed. Just some of the functions/info has been changed.

True, my bad

Wow, I thought the possible changes I was referring to when creating this thread we're big. These changes being talked about above have the capacity to flip the online poker scene on it's head.

Could very well be a prank but, does seem like an odd thing to come up with in that regard.

Could be that there are even bigger announcements to come and it wouldn't really surprise me if that was the case.

hehe pretty much sad truth.

This

They made this change today for some reason.
Not too relevant but their software is so buggy nothing happens when you click the button. Does that mean I lost out on my 10 quid of rakeback or what?

EDIT: Nevermind relogged and it fixed itself, my Tenner is safe

Probably just troll.
But copying old pokerstars rakeback makes more sense when you plan to become pokerstars. But yeah have hard time seeing it as anything but joke from Joey.

Party is full of bots and colluders, there is a huge difference to Stars. There are two reasons for it, Stars has better security and allows HUDs.

Your point about Party not doing anything about bots anyway is correct but a HUD will help regs spot bots and colluders much faster and therefore avoid them.

Right, make the site heaven for bots and colluders.

Unibet, mpn and gg are doing just fine.

There are HUD's selled for those three rooms with monthly payments though? Actually only for first and third, for mpn the results are srambled and the hud doesn't track results correctly.

Don't really know why would pay for a ub hud when they don't save handhistories. And they are constantly making small updates to the clinet that brakes the illegal 3rd party tools. GG have no idea just know they don't allow huds.

Anyway the point was there are rooms where huds are not allowed / they don't work and they are doing just fine.

Not to turn this into a debate about if HUDs should be allowed or not but it would be interesting to know why you feel this way considering you're not just a complaining losing player. Have you made a post on this topic before I could read somewhere else?

^ Loads, but e.g.:

What Joey tweeted could easily make sense with Amaya and the current stock price.

Appreciate the reply and you bring up some very good/valid points that certainly give me something to think about in regards to the issue. I've always assumed that most people against HUD's were just losing players looking to place the blame elsewhere but I certainly don't think that is what you're doing.

PS...I think it's pretty cool that you still find time to stay involved in the community and reply to us unknowns. I think that says a lot about your character (for the better) and I've always looked up to and respected you for that. Cheers and take care.

I fundamentally agree with pretty much everything you said, but...

1) The past has so far proven that every effort to stop HUDs has been circumvented. That means unethical Regs who are breaking TOS with hidden Tools are getting an immense advantage.

2) The only working solution, afaik, are anonymous Games but a majority of Poker Players are not interested to play in an anonymous environment.

I cant think of any satisfying solution, can you?

can't the sites just detect any 3rd party software and warn/ban people?

Go to pokerscout right now, it seems people do not realise how big of a market share PS has.

He was trolling. I fell for it as well

Willing to take even money bets on that not being true

PokerStars' brand along with their software is their most valuable asset. Also why do people think it would be a positive thing? Amaya paid $4.something billion for PokerStars. Large pricetag for a company in a declining market, and to recoup the offset, rake had to be increased multiple times. Why do people think it wouldn't happen with Party? It's not like USA market is showing any realistic signs of opening.

Im not a software developer so take what im saying with a grain of salt

1) Processes can be hidden and disguised and i assume the Poker Software needs to be like a super Trojan to even have a small chance to catching them

2) I have no confirmation on this nor have i ever heard of any1 using this but where lots of money is involved, poeple get creative.

They could simply take StarsHelper/PartyCaption Output and mirror whole Poker Tables to another Computer or virtuell maschine, just sending back your table input and you could do whatever you want on your 2nd computer with basically no risk of ever getting caught.

It just makes sense that some Highstakes Players already have solutions like that in tandem with real time GTO Advice(aka Dream maschines).

EDIT re 2) I did shoot solution 2) just out of my hip while never having written a line of code. Just imagine what kind of solutions a Tag Team with high level programmers and Poker Players could come up with.