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Old 04-12-2012, 08:49 PM   #1301
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Re: PartyPoker - The 48h Cash Game with live stream / April 11-13 ***rail thread***

Torelli is such a tool
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:50 PM   #1302
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someone needs to tell Jesse what angling is.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:51 PM   #1303
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torrelli disgusts me
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:52 PM   #1304
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what was the hand they are all talking about?
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:54 PM   #1305
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I'm guessing the prod team is trying to get it all sorted during the break so the players stfu about it
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:54 PM   #1306
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I really dont get the Seiver KK fold. Everyone is talking about Laak folding the winner, but what was Seiver's thought process when he makes it 22k? he is a world class player, so he obviously knows he should not be doing that.. essentially bluffing with kings there if he folds. Just a brain-freeze? Just like Laak B)
i think scott was trying to get max value from the hand range alec had Jx, when alec shoves his range is mostly set's, its a super tough spott then. he expected alec to flat call and check call down, u just dont expect alce to re raise a J there for an extra moneys 70Keuro 100usd
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:54 PM   #1307
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lol #1, Laak folding the winner in a €60k pot and not giving a ****.

lol #2, Torelli.

Right, also Siever folding KK in that pot = major lol. Especially after all the praise they gave him in the booth, "the sharpest mind in poker atm LOL!".
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:56 PM   #1308
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anyone?
I tihnk Torelli limped? with AJ, and Seiver made it $4k. Torelli called. (I'm not sure if he limped though, since it was $800. I dont know how can $800 be a limp. Maybe there was a huge straddle or something. But I kinda missed it, and they said he limped. I dont trust the guys in the booth too much though. It might have been raise $800, 3-bet $4k. Anyways)

Flop is J24r, Torelli check, Seiver bet like $3,5k. Torellis raise to $10,5k, seiver to $22,5k, Torelli all-in, Seiver tanks and folds like ~25k behind. (Dont know exactly what he had behind. around $20k-$30k)
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:57 PM   #1309
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anyone?
bet raise reraise shove fold.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:57 PM   #1310
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what was the hand they are all talking about?
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Who's that doing the commentary with Jesse ?
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:58 PM   #1311
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They should run the 48 hour cash game alongside every WPT event great TV
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:59 PM   #1312
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Re: PartyPoker - The 48h Cash Game with live stream / April 11-13 ***rail thread***

tony shouldnt tell him he should pay.

he isn't obliged to pay anything. paying anything at all would be a very nice gesture, but that's another thing.

edit: tony is probably just joking/ribbing tho

edit2: talking about moseley, not the side bet just to clarify.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:00 PM   #1313
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i think scott was trying to get max value from the hand range alec had Jx, when alec shoves his range is mostly set's, its a super tough spott then. he expected alec to flat call and check call down, u just dont expect alce to re raise a J there for an extra moneys 70Keuro 100usd
So it was for information then? That's bad, as I'm sure you know it. In this kind of a game you cant put it past someone that they overplay AJ, maybe sneaky ***** with QQ or whatever.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:00 PM   #1314
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tony shouldnt tell him he should pay.

he isn't obliged to pay anything. paying anything at all would be a very nice gesture, but that's another thing.
Of course he's obliged to pay!

He has payed now so whatever but of course he has to.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:01 PM   #1315
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No need to give any money back, the possibility of mucking the winning hand is part of the game, it's a small risk you choose to take every time you don't show. It's just as much a gamble as any other part of the game is.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:01 PM   #1316
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tony shouldnt tell him he should pay.

he isn't obliged to pay anything. paying anything at all would be a very nice gesture, but that's another thing.

edit: tony is probably just joking/ribbing tho
Yeah, that is not cool from Tony. Putting Moseley on a bad spot there. I dont think Laak needs the money that much. Probably humiliated by the mistake and it wont change even if he gets the money back.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:02 PM   #1317
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Re: PartyPoker - The 48h Cash Game with live stream / April 11-13 ***rail thread***

Phil Laak is an idiot I have never mucked the winning hand in my life in live poker.

Also,I'm glad online you can't muck a winner lmao.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:02 PM   #1318
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Re: PartyPoker - The 48h Cash Game with live stream / April 11-13 ***rail thread***

He's talking about Moseley vs Laak i think
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:04 PM   #1319
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So it was for information then? That's bad, as I'm sure you know it. In this kind of a game you cant put it past someone that they overplay AJ, maybe sneaky ***** with QQ or whatever.
first it was for value then he felt he was beat, and i think scott had like 65K+ to call off , not 20,30k, obv he can fold wit 20 k left behind
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:05 PM   #1320
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Phil Laak is an idiot I have never mucked the winning hand in my life in live poker.

Also,I'm glad online you can't muck a winner lmao.
and yet he's owning the ****ing table..
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:05 PM   #1321
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Re: PartyPoker - The 48h Cash Game with live stream / April 11-13 ***rail thread***

gross turn card but good fold by laak
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:05 PM   #1322
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Did Torelli end up paying Tony G or not?
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:05 PM   #1323
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Re: PartyPoker - The 48h Cash Game with live stream / April 11-13 ***rail thread***

Wow I feel bad for Laak, bad mistake but very possible when you have been playing for that long. He clearly does not deserve any money back tho.

Sievers play seems pretty suspect but I didn't watch it.

Edit: good fold there by Phil.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:07 PM   #1324
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So it was for information then? That's bad, as I'm sure you know it. In this kind of a game you cant put it past someone that they overplay AJ, maybe sneaky ***** with QQ or whatever.
Yes betting for information is bad. But everyone does it on a J x x flop with AJ/KJ. If you say Seiver was bad for playing KK like that, what do you say about torreli's hand?

I think we should call it a merge raise otf, what do you guys think?
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:08 PM   #1325
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Re: PartyPoker - The 48h Cash Game with live stream / April 11-13 ***rail thread***

Pretty awesome fold by Laak there. It's pretty sick that he's not tilted out of him mind from the A6 hand and is still making correct decisions. He deserves a ton of respect after this performance.
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