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07-12-2013 , 05:48 PM
~20% seasonal swings is the norm. Dot-com market is about the same size as it was a year ago.

PartyPoker is down about 20% YoY, but over this period the bwin pool was brought onto the party network.
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07-13-2013 , 06:06 AM
It's possible Party are about to start segregating the SNGs (or already have)! In the last update they changed the way you join SNGs and also the way they are listed in the client lobby:
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Originally Posted by jukofyork
The more I look at these changes the more I think they might be preparing to segregate the SNGs (or possibly even have already):

They've deliberately made it very hard to see exactly which SNGs you have available by removing all the names from the client lobby and just calling them all "Turbo" or "Standard". This was how the cash game players realized they were being segregated, so possibly they've got more crafty in this regard...

Also the introduction of the tournament lobby itself could be for a system whereby if enough recreational players join a lobby it can be hidden from view from winning players.

If anybody knows somebody with a losing Party account then I think it's well worth checking to see if the same tables are visible (especially at the lowest micro-limits where the liquidity is higher and segregation is more likely to work).

Juk
- http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=10960

I know there are a few here who write for poker news sites and it may make for a good story if my theory about these changes is correct (ie: going to even further lengths to hide their segregation policy from players, etc).

Juk
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07-13-2013 , 02:50 PM
I've heard from party regs that segregation is now gone, everyone can see/play all the tables, can anyone confirm? Would be very mysterious, especially (again) without a word from the company.
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07-13-2013 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
I've heard from party regs that segregation is now gone, everyone can see/play all the tables, can anyone confirm? Would be very mysterious, especially (again) without a word from the company.
ye I´ve been in some kind of pool for a few months. And now I´m not anymore. Anyone here who can tell us if they´re still in some segregated pool so we know if they still use it or not?
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07-13-2013 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HakanL
ye I´ve been in some kind of pool for a few months. And now I´m not anymore. Anyone here who can tell us if they´re still in some segregated pool so we know if they still use it or not?
They don't bother to communicate anymore with us. We are regs so accroding to their standards we aren't even human beings. For the last 5 months PArty refused to discuss with us about the segregation they didn't even bother to explain it to us how it works. (moreover they never inform us that they incorporate it in a first place, just players notcied something fishy was going on).

Simply you won't get answers. It isn't like fixed system so don't be supirse if for like a week or so there won't be fish anymore.

Simply we just don't know and we won't know.
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07-13-2013 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
I've heard from party regs that segregation is now gone, everyone can see/play all the tables, can anyone confirm? Would be very mysterious, especially (again) without a word from the company.
I checked the Party Poker thread in the Internet Poker forum and didn't see anything about this, so I'm pretty skeptical that its true. I would imagine that there would be a lot of talk about it by now if it was. Either way, good to see their traffic tanking.
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08-09-2013 , 09:45 AM
When you uninstall the party software and delete the party folder. Then install again, you are in the fishpool again for 1 days, even with the same acount.
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08-22-2013 , 10:16 PM
What came about from these reports that the winning player segregation stopped?

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When you uninstall the party software and delete the party folder. Then install again, you are in the fishpool again for 1 days, even with the same acount.
That is quite interesting, but since it came after others said it was dead it made me ask the first question.
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08-22-2013 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by trashy123
When you uninstall the party software and delete the party folder. Then install again, you are in the fishpool again for 1 days, even with the same acount.
Wonder what the file is that says you're a shark and if it can just be altered in notepad.
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08-23-2013 , 05:37 AM
Of course all the sharks are highly disappointed that there are no fish to squeeze any money from and that there opponents are all other highly skilled poker players and that the fish (the majority) are getting to enjoy a game of poker for a change. Of course I highly doubt that there is a rule book that says they have to disclose their strategy.

For poker rooms to do well, especially on networks they need a high volume of sharks, otherwise the imbalance of chips can send them out of business. By doing this party poker was trying to ensure a balance of chips on their side of the network, letting fish play fish and sharks play sharks so that they were still able to offer online poker to those who wanted it.

Their business decision is not yours, now it's time to adjust your business plans if you are playing for a living.
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08-23-2013 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by inoimbluffingdou
Of course I highly doubt that there is a rule book that says they have to disclose their strategy.
do you mean partypoker? so you think it's ok to lie about the product you're selling? cause that's what they're doing if they're changing the rules and not telling you, you ****ing moron
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08-23-2013 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
Wonder what the file is that says you're a shark and if it can just be altered in notepad.
I found a file in my party folder called winrateset.txt, changed the following:
sharkpool = '1'
winflips = '0'
#superuser = '0'

edited to:

sharkpool = '0'
winflips = '1'
#superuser = '1'

I was crushing for a few sessions but then got totally owned yesterday by one dude - not sure what's going on.
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08-23-2013 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BluffingX
I found a file in my party folder called winrateset.txt, changed the following:
sharkpool = '1'
winflips = '0'
#superuser = '0'

edited to:

sharkpool = '0'
winflips = '1'
#superuser = '1'

I was crushing for a few sessions but then got totally owned yesterday by one dude - not sure what's going on.
I was gonna install PP out of curiosity but that is just to obsurd to be true. What you mean is that you created the file rather than found it. I dont think party Poker would be that dumb to make it easy to find and to be able to edit it using notepad would be even dumber on their part. Nice try though
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08-23-2013 , 11:02 AM
DarkAqua: I think you're making a valid point, thank you for sharing you doubts about that posters' true intentions.
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08-23-2013 , 11:12 AM
thread gets funnier every day
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08-23-2013 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BluffingX
I found a file in my party folder called winrateset.txt, changed the following:
sharkpool = '1'
winflips = '0'
#superuser = '0'

edited to:

sharkpool = '0'
winflips = '1'
#superuser = '1'

I was crushing for a few sessions but then got totally owned yesterday by one dude - not sure what's going on.
You forgot to uncomment superuser.
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10-31-2013 , 06:28 PM
segregated tables were removed today fwiw

http://www.rakeback.com/partypoker/n...regation-2897/
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10-31-2013 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I888888888I
segregated tables were removed today fwiw

http://www.rakeback.com/partypoker/n...regation-2897/

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In recent months it also became clear from poker tracking and rating websites that a few players had managed to 'hack' the system.

These accounts were able to play solely in the 'fish pool' 24/7, reaping massive profits from casual players and defeating the object of the segregation.
Wow, no one could have predicted that.
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10-31-2013 , 08:05 PM
They probably realized it was a very bad idea anyway. Saying that "hackers" ruined it allowed them, in their own minds, to save what little face they have left.
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10-31-2013 , 08:15 PM
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6. As of 30 minutes ago, the limited tables that lie at the heart of this conflict will be removed. Not because the intention behind them has changed, but because the feature no longer serves a valid purpose if it is abused and manipulated. Before anyone shouts "well you’ve handed them a victory on a plate by removing these tables," you can expect us to produce something new to bring about a sensible and healthy balance in our poker ecology – and, for good measure, we’ll tell you the ‘what’, the ‘when’, ‘why’ and ‘how’ behind our thinking: with my arrival I can safely say that the 'run silent, run deep' approach has been scrapped for good.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=12946

He promises to try new things to destroy grinders. I think making everything 40BB max is next.
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10-31-2013 , 08:49 PM
So long and thanks for all the fish just became the all you can eat seafood restaurant at the end of the universe again
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11-01-2013 , 09:41 AM
Oh noes. This was the wave of the future.
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11-01-2013 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by I888888888I
segregated tables were removed today fwiw

http://www.rakeback.com/partypoker/n...regation-2897/
....because they say they were, so we should believe them If this year has taught us anything, it's that Party/Bwin is a company that values integrity, honesty, and fairness when dealing with their most loyal customers.

brb, rushing to transfer money from neteller
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