i emailed stars, got a canned rsponse saying they're monitoring the situation and will alert us if anything changes.

There's a chance that we get something similar of the UK regulation, still a lot of things can happen, do not panic just yet.

The law was approved today by La Camara de Diputados if this follows the normal path it must now be approved by the senate and then by the president. I’m not sure how long it takes for the senate or how it’s done there, but once it passes that, the president has 30 days to do anything about it, if nothing is done then it is considered approved by the executive power and then it gets promulgated. This process (although I’m not sure about the senate) is said to take about 60 days. Once that is done the promulgation and regulation starts.

There is a rumor that Amaya might be already trying to do something in México like they did in UK but as I said it’s only a rumor. Also I have read that some Mexican pros will be looking to get involved. At a recent conversation with Mexican players I’ve noticed that there is still a glimpse of hope something like a three outer. One time!

Si amigo siiii!!! Mucha buena suerte a todos de nosotros...Una vez!!! Y gracias para la informacion

I do not understand this assertion at all.

What difference does the location of the RNG make ? Are IOM/Curacao/Malta located/licensed sites ring-fenced and players segregated ?

thanks for this and please keep us updated

Sorry of this has already been asked/answered, what kind of time frame are we looking at on when we find out if it will be regulated? Was attempting to sort a lease out for early next year but it seems now i should wait and see what happens first.

so in ~60 days "mexicans" cant play on stars?

Thanks for this. I did expect you to have done a bit more hence why I amended my position slightly. The advice I put out that poker sites should be lobbying now to make mirror servers in Mexico compliant still stands. The IoM can't insist everything is there and Mexico everything there when you have one location for the RNG. It's location is no protection anyway, it is the fairness of it and it being available for inspection.

A letter of understanding between Mexico and IoM re joint working and full inspection powers for Mexican regulators/courts could even be done. This should not e a hurdle, it is the player transaction data that they are most in need of policing in Mexico and mirror servers gives them that.

Take pokerstars as an example. The pokerstars.com RNG is located in IOM. If the RNG for Mexico has to be located in Mexico, then it won't use the same RNG as pokerstars.com. So how is it possible for players in Mexico sitting at the same table as players from ROW to be dealt cards from two separate RNGs? PS uses a set deck (RNG generates the 52-card deck before any card is dealt) - you can't use one deck for the players in Mexico and another for ROW at the same table.

Even with a continuous shuffle RNG as used by other sites, you would have to run two decks simultaneously - one for Mexico and one for ROW. Perhaps some complicated solution could be developed, where the ROW deck is depleted at the same time as the Mexico deck, but this changes the entire paradigm of the RNG for the entire ROW. I don't see it happening.

You get player pooling across ring-fenced domains only when the one ROW RNG is used for all participating domains, I believe.

Am I wrong?

u really think stars are going to let someone see their rng? pretty obvious why they wouldnt

It has already been tested by a third party approved by the regulator. The regulator can demand a reexamination whenever they like and any change needs recertification.

Pool 100 k together and bribe the president problem solved imo

Hello Gregory,

Thank you for contacting PokerStars.

We are aware of and are actively monitoring any potential changes in the Mexico legal situation. Rest assured that PokerStars, in concert with industry allies, will make every effort to ensure that all Mexican players will be able to continue participating in and enjoying the game of online poker.

Please rest assured that we are keeping a close eye on this situation and will update our players should circumstances warrant any change to current policy.

In the meantime, you are still able to access the PokerStars client and continue to play as normal.

If you have any further questions about this matter, please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

Regards,

Henning
PokerStars Support Team

No. So in theory a poker room could move their entire dot-com infrastructure to Mexico and allow both mexicans and ROW to play on it. So someone in let's say Canada, Germany, UK et al could play on a site with servers based in Mexico, just as they could on sites with servers in IOM/Curacao/Malta. But a Mexican can't play on a server located in the IOM.

In practice no one is going to do that. Practically, as interpreted the Mexican law will result in a segregated player pool.

And this is much like the case in France and Spain. Anyone globally can play on these sites, but servers are in Spain, all play comes under Spanish gaming law and tax, etc, and in practice the games are ring-fenced.

why have some countries included provisions in their regulations that require ring-fencing while others haven't?

Any grinders who have grown to love the weather and region should seriously consider relocating a few hundred miles South. Belize.

It's more third World than Playa del Carmen but has plenty going for it. Improving speed cost and quality internet. No online regulation. English speaking. Money pegged to US$ so no currency fluctuations. Easy immigration visa updates monthly at local Immigration Office US$25 first six months per month next six US$50 then if not left for 2 weeks eligible for residency.

I live on a Caye with superb Diving and Fishing just offshore witha Coral Barrier Reef a third of a mile away. Great water sports plenty of bars and restaurants as it's a Tourist destination but on a much smaller and relaxed scale than Playa.

Go visit Ambergris Caye and/or Caye Caulker etc and see on an easy 5 hour journey for a long weekend. PokerStars were here allegedly a year back looking at Casino possibilities as the regulation is great but I heard had hoped for a bigger online presence and this could tie in nicely if it came off. Worth a look for some in my view even without this.

the murder rate is like 2x Mexico : /

Per capita it's bad if you just look at a stat but outside Belize City - where you likely would live - and if you aren't in Cocaine smuggling business or in a gang probably safer than Mexico.

Should probably add I'm a British expat and lived here fulltime for almost 15 years. Happy to objectivly answer questions if anyone is interested and have nothing to gain other than perhaps a more vibrant poker scene. We have legal but limited live poker too

Google Steven Joyce before U buy your tix bro

Thats pretty nice, limited holdem is much better than unlimited holdem.

Now if they can also make the laws tougher regarding drugs (prescription and non) as well as prostitution, they could finally put an end to the large influx of American immigrants sneaking across the border.

;-) New game

JC Alvarado is meeting with a politician next week to discuss the issue of ROW player pools. If anyone has anything they would like him to express, especially your story of spending time in Mexico, spending money, anything of that variety, post it here.