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08-08-2014 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bageled
Latvia just put PS,FTP, 888 and Unibet on blacklist. See PokerNews for story.
Ffs why cnt they just **** off and let countries play poker against other ****ing countries,pokers dying a slow death as each country with draws from the player pool,just won't b getting the numbers to bother playing mtts soon
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08-08-2014 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyQuixote
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But, ......online poker IS boring to most people after about an hour. Add in that they likely lost a couple o buy-ins in the process, and you might accept that something needs to change about the way the game is presented and played.

Also, poker has lost an edge it formerly held. When poker "boomed" online, there were not very many other online gaming oferings to engage hesitant players ... Poker was actually something they understood from the live gaming environment. Otherwise, when they moved their interactive entertainment appetite online, they might have gone for Social Games/Candy Crush, even "back in the day".
This is hard to imagine for people that stay playing the game. For example, I've played since 05, and I've never encountered anyone that continued to play, and was bored an hour in.
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08-08-2014 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Craggoo
Now that PS is a publicly owned company expect them to turn into another Party Poker. Player pool segregation
party doesn't do that

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jackpot sit 'n goes
party doesn't do that.

PS and FTP do though, and that was prior to the Amaya acquisition.
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08-08-2014 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by reraise85
Ffs why cnt they just **** off and let countries play poker against other ****ing countries,pokers dying a slow death as each country with draws from the player pool,just won't b getting the numbers to bother playing mtts soon
Are you saying the Latvian online gaming regulation requires operators to segregate the player pool?

Not saying your wrong, just first i've heard of it. All recent European regulation has had a permissive approach to this issue - Belgium, estonia, denmark, bulgaria, UK, (soon) the netherlands, portugal...
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08-08-2014 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hood
Are you saying the Latvian online gaming regulation requires operators to segregate the player pool?

Not saying your wrong, just first i've heard of it. All recent European regulation has had a permissive approach to this issue - Belgium, estonia, denmark, bulgaria, UK, (soon) the netherlands, portugal...
If Latvia segregates their players any site will be a ghost town. Latvia has a tiny population the size of Chicago including the suburbs. The site would be lucky to have two full ring games in prime time and sit and gos will take as long as live ones to fill.
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08-08-2014 , 03:41 PM
This is why--and i haven't read the orig text nor the 2013 amendments--i'd be surprised if the player pool was segregated.
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08-08-2014 , 08:45 PM
The solution is easy
Forbid the use of huds and other software.
Limit multitabling to 2 maybe 4 tables max.
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08-08-2014 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AKoffsuit
Limit multitabling to 2
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08-08-2014 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hood

party doesn't do that.
Sorry. I was trying to give examples of things that are bad for the games. I was trying to point out that since they are now a publicly owned company they will assuming a "Party Poker like" stance.
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08-09-2014 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by john.h
poker is superdead...

all sites have 100 regional mutations due to laws and its hard to play versus regional players with same mentality - no more russian, american and south european fishes together in one pool.

there are plenty of info about poker and even fish can study what should or shouldn't do in one day - i don't remember, when I saw preflop overbet for 20bbs and more and I dont remember, when I stacked person with AA preflop when the person didnt have KK or QQ.

ROIs are getting smaller and smaller, people who used to play 180max turbo with 30 percent roi are happy for 10 percent roi now

rakes are ridiculous everywhere, except pokerstars.com

you must play really high stakes to make it worth, when you play games for 20 dollars and less, you must play 10 hours a day be dude with something like average salary

in three years, only luckboxes and super poker nerds will have some profit... maybe 1 percent of all players will have high standard of living thanks to poker. But if million people will play roulette for one year, there can be some statistical exception and few people can be millionaires - same thing will be in poker after few years.

I dont take argument about professionals - yeah, there are maybe 50 people, who can afford to play Big One for One Drop (or who can find people who will back part of their action). All those high roller TV tourneys with 50-200 people - of course you will be on top from time to time, if you are playing it regulary. Those people are just walking billboards to lure average fishes like most people in this forum to pay for rake.

Rake is the only long-term regular winner in all online poker sites and it goes to owners of the sites. I feel pitty for all those people, who are thinking about high standard of living thanks to poker in ten years. If you don't belong between 20 best HU SNG players or 100 best and sponsored live MTT players, you are not one of that lucky people, who can achieve that in 10 years

Damn, look at sharkscope yearly leaderboards. Every year top earners have less and less money and there are very few game types, where leaders have 100k+ Go and find a job or start some business - there is bigger chance to make 100k+ yearly.
Online poker is comatose because the average player from rich western countries generally only play chumpy stakes that aren't worth playing for more than entertainment. I tried Zoom on Stars and even at 10NL the games are tighter than 100NL used to be with a much higher effective rake. It's not worth playing for any form of income unless you live in Russia or other Eastern Euro countries or poor Asian, Latin American countries. Even at this level Stars wasn't over flowing with mega fish like online poker had in 2002 through 2008.
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09-23-2014 , 05:30 AM
Poker is dead, poker is dead, bla bla bla. There always will be donks willing to shove pre A8 etc.
Rigtht now I am crushing 2NL on Stars. How online poker can be dead?
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09-23-2014 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PokeristOnRage
Poker is dead, poker is dead, bla bla bla. There always will be donks willing to shove pre A8 etc.
Rigtht now I am crushing 2NL on Stars. How online poker can be dead?
Cool story bro, I'd rather work for 5 minutes to make the same amount.
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09-04-2018 , 05:22 PM
Is it safe to assume Online poker is dead already?
Is 2018 No americans no china men.
What i see is auto seating scripts at 2NL
Are you guys still waiting for the other boom?
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09-04-2018 , 05:48 PM
you guys are just awful at poker its not dead.
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09-05-2018 , 12:12 AM
i just looked Stars annual report and second quarter 2018. Poker revenues grow year by year.... New reward system is here for about 2 years now, so i dont understand the increase in revenues...

is poker booming or what?
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09-05-2018 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by OhEllNo
i just looked Stars annual report and second quarter 2018. Poker revenues grow year by year.... New reward system is here for about 2 years now, so i dont understand the increase in revenues...

is poker booming or what?
rake increased, re-entry on Bigs and Bounty Builders, no promotions etc...
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09-05-2018 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
you guys are just awful at poker its not dead.
Says the 10nl grinder. How is that 2 bucks an hour serving you?
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09-05-2018 , 01:43 AM
not dead here
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09-05-2018 , 10:13 AM
online poker isn't dead, still lots of action at the PLO tables, come join us
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09-05-2018 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
online poker isn't dead, still lots of action at the PLO tables, come join us
PLO = engaging game + very high variance + rake. Profit?
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09-05-2018 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Says the 10nl grinder. How is that 2 bucks an hour serving you?
its not that high lets not get carried away. But you cant even beat 10nl so back to being on a poker forum but not liking poker, that is pathetic.
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09-05-2018 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
its not that high lets not get carried away. But you cant even beat 10nl so back to being on a poker forum but not liking poker, that is pathetic.
I play a mixture of 100nl and 200nl, so you're wrong.

Who is the sucker here:

- me, table selecting and beating up fish at 10-20 times your stakes
- you, grinding a couple of bucks against a bunch of bots/nits on ACR

I'll leave you to figure that one out.
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09-05-2018 , 08:35 PM
Poker's not dead, MTTs are still soft AF.

Although cash is obviously a lot harder now, but there are a lot more tools to beat it as well.
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09-07-2018 , 01:19 AM
Why has online cheating not been mentioned at all? Bots have been mentioned once or twice.
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09-07-2018 , 05:14 AM
I also think that poker is dead, it becomes our past...
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