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10-21-2015 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by uradoodooface
.... yet there have been bunch pro MMA fights where dudes had that much or more of an advantage. Weight isn't that big of a deal in MMA, it just isn't.
lol a 'bunch'

you're referring to old school ufc right?

If weight isn't a big deal in mma, why do they separate fighters by weight class? And why do fighters do EXTREMELY difficult things so that they can weigh EXACTLY the maximum at weigh in and then gain weight after?

logic, what is it lol

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wussie sport where you have pillows strapped to your hands called boxing.
omg your brain, why doesn't it work

gloves in both boxing and mma are designed to protect your hands, not your opponents face

the mouthpieces and vaseline, worn in both boxing AND mma are the little protection your face gets.

Last edited by bjsmith22; 10-21-2015 at 08:00 AM.
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10-21-2015 , 07:56 AM
This seems very naive to me.
Please enlighten me with the correlation between looks and fighting skills?[/QUOTE]

My comment was only half serious, but congratulations on getting offended by it. Liv doesn't look or act particularly hard imo. Just because you don't look hard doesn't mean you aren't, but being tough is going to matter. In a lot of these type of fights the guys have zero ability to take and give strikes - they're so unfamiliar with getting hit that they do everything they can to avoid strikes and their own strikes have little conviction or accuracy.

Does anyone know what type of rules they are fighting under? Shin pads? Strikes to head on ground? Elbows?
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10-21-2015 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bjsmith22
lol a 'bunch'

you're referring to old school ufc right?

If weight isn't a big deal in mma, why do they separate fighters by weight class? And why do fighters do EXTREMELY difficult things so that they can weigh EXACTLY the maximum at weigh in and then gain weight after?

logic, what is it lol
Ya some are old school but lets face it that don't matter when you're talking about 2 poker players in an MMA fight. LOL 1 had a 400 lbs on the other dude. **** is hilarious.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/...ory?id=3513974


Honestly if they stopped havign crazy weigh ins where they dropped 15 lbs or whatever I think they'd be able to fight in more varied weight classes. Dehydrating urself for a fight is a ****ing joke to make wieght. That just sounds like something stupid people would think is healthy.
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10-21-2015 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bjsmith22
lol a 'bunch'

you're referring to old school ufc right?

If weight isn't a big deal in mma, why do they separate fighters by weight class? And why do fighters do EXTREMELY difficult things so that they can weigh EXACTLY the maximum at weigh in and then gain weight after?

logic, what is it lol



omg your brain, why doesn't it work

gloves in both boxing and mma are designed to protect your hands, not your opponents face

the mouthpieces and vaseline, worn in both boxing AND mma are the little protection your face gets.
Jessus u must love to make enemies out of strangers. I just don't respect boxing dude get over it. It's not fighting it extreem pillow fighting. High level boxers would get their arms ripped off by low level MMA fighters and just straight up blue collar brawlers. Also you're kind of a tard on this forum and your presence is toxix. Go get therapy you child.
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10-21-2015 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by uradoodooface
Jessus u must love to make enemies out of strangers. I just don't respect boxing dude get over it. It's not fighting it extreem pillow fighting. High level boxers would get their arms ripped off by low level MMA fighters and just straight up blue collar brawlers. Also you're kind of a tard on this forum and your presence is toxix. Go get therapy you child.
The fact that you 'don't respect boxing' and you think it's 'pillow fighting', next to the facts available about boxing speaks louder than anything I could say about you.



Have a nice night sir.
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10-21-2015 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bjsmith22
The fact that you 'don't respect boxing' and you think it's 'pillow fighting', next to the facts available about boxing speaks louder than anything I could say about you.



Have a nice night sir.
+1

I don't often agree with bjsmith but he is 100% right here
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10-21-2015 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Does JC have experience in actual fights or only training? If he has fought, is there any footage?
edit: nm just read this - http://www.husng.com/content/questio...st-jc-alvarado
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10-21-2015 , 08:32 AM
tree fiddy on oliver biscuit
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10-21-2015 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by poison_arrow_frog
tree fiddy on oliver biscuit
Olivier, Olivier, please don't call me Oliver
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10-21-2015 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Punker
I put the line at
Liv whatever
JC whatever
Fight never happens -1000000

How much action do you want?

One or both of them are planning to come on the Pokercast this week.
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10-21-2015 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SicilianTaimanov
Olivier, Olivier, please don't call me Oliver
Lol
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10-21-2015 , 09:22 AM
Seems like there should be an amount escrowed or agreed upon if someone backs out. If this is seriously another publicity stunt that never happens they need to ban all challenges on 2+2.
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10-21-2015 , 02:29 PM
Will this be broadcasted/filmed?
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10-21-2015 , 02:31 PM
Watching two poker players fight is like watching two albino 8 year old girls having a pillow fight.
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10-21-2015 , 03:43 PM
weight class makes a big difference ONLY if both fighters are of relative equal skill

a body builder weighing 225 with no MMA training would be at a huge disadvantage against a 185 pound skilled fighter

i don't know anything about jc alvarado, but if it's true he has an MMA background he's going to be at a significant advantage despite the weight
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10-21-2015 , 03:45 PM
Kick him in the balls. Game over.
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10-21-2015 , 03:54 PM
Unless the fight doesn't happen, I don't see why there's so much hate.

You have one guy giving 20 lbs but has been training for years, neither has been in a fight, and both will likely train pretty hard for 5 months.

And a lot of money is on the line.

I would much rather watch this than say the final table of a single MTT.
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10-21-2015 , 04:31 PM
First of all, congratulations to liv on the divorce. Secondly, I would like to bet $350 on liv. For the record I know nothing of the other guy but 20lb advantage is huge and liv should leverage that. Liv's passion to win has also been one of his biggest advantages and I predict it will pay off in dividends here. Note, if either of you have a concussion this is a minus EV bet. Work on your ground game Liv and take the fight to the ground EVERY TIME.
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10-21-2015 , 04:52 PM
Lol at boxing being pillow fighting and lol at saying a poor mma fighter could take out a high level boxer...
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10-21-2015 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by uradoodooface
.... yet there have been bunch pro MMA fights where dudes had that much or more of an advantage. Weight isn't that big of a deal in MMA, it just isn't. I've already gone over this in the Rounda Rousey vs Mayweather thread. Weight just isnt that much of a factor unless you're playing in the wussie sport where you have pillows strapped to your hands called boxing.
Ummmmm. No. That's just wrong. Otherwise why would guys go to so much trouble to cut weight (via dehydration) to ensure they are as heavy as possible come fight time?

The big weight discrepancy fights (which don't happen anymore) only ever resulted in wins for the small guy when their was a MASSIVE skill difference.
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10-21-2015 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkMattersMan
Lol at boxing being pillow fighting and lol at saying a poor mma fighter could take out a high level boxer...
A lot of poor MMA fighters would dispatch an elite boxer with ease provided a couple of conditions:

1. The MMA fighter has some competency in wrestling
2. The boxer does not land a haymaker in the 5 seconds prior to the fight hitting the mat

Boxers will always struggle when fighting under MMA rules without months (probably years) of proper training because a traditional boxing stance makes sprawling (defending a takedown) almost impossible.

I've seen many examples of high level strikers getting outworked on the feet by a guy they should crush just because the threat of the takedown is ever-present. Boxing vs. a guy who can only hit you is very, very different from boxing with a guy who can hit you, kick you, clinch, and shoot at any moment.
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10-21-2015 , 05:41 PM
my favorite threads, i wont even read it because obv they are both pussies
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10-21-2015 , 06:27 PM
Just doesn't feel very hype worthy but I'm sure I'll tune in and watch it.
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10-21-2015 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jaywalking
A lot of poor MMA fighters would dispatch an elite boxer with ease provided a couple of conditions:

1. The MMA fighter has some competency in wrestling
2. The boxer does not land a haymaker in the 5 seconds prior to the fight hitting the mat

Boxers will always struggle when fighting under MMA rules without months (probably years) of proper training because a traditional boxing stance makes sprawling (defending a takedown) almost impossible.

I've seen many examples of high level strikers getting outworked on the feet by a guy they should crush just because the threat of the takedown is ever-present. Boxing vs. a guy who can only hit you is very, very different from boxing with a guy who can hit you, kick you, clinch, and shoot at any moment.
I would say that's true. Someone like Karelin would destroy both MMA and the Boxer dude at same time
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10-21-2015 , 07:40 PM
we gotta get joey from chiraq to live-stream this.
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