If I have 14BB’s and fold my hand then look at a chart that tells me exactly what to do with 14 BB’s in my next position that is 100% RTA.

So you guys think looking at push fold charts and 3bet charts right before a hand is acceptable? It isn't and it shouldn't be.

So would a math book be allowed between questions if you couldn't change past answers? It's a perfect analogy. Looking up how to solve math problems between problems is not allowed, neither should looking at charts at the poker table.

Can you talk about the hand while it's going on at the table or is that forbidden?

You can talk during a math test, just not about the test. Just like you can't talk about a hand during the hand.

The notion of “real time assistance” isn’t really relevant in live poker, and never has been.

With a few narrow exceptions (e.g. talking to other players in a foreign language or colluding), the overall rule is that:
- While you are in a hand, you aren’t allow to read anything or communicate with the outside world in any way
- While you aren’t in a hand, you can read anything you want, and communicate in any way you want

In neither case does it matter whether what you are reading or communicating could be categorized as “real time assistance”.

no its not, you still have to memorize the range, this isn’t real time

True. Didn't think any term would reach the level of misuse on 2+2 that we see for "GTO" and "Ponzi scheme", but this is running it close

well you no longer have to memorize it in your long term memory then. now if you have a deck of charts for each stack size/position, you can pull out the corresponding chart before your hand is dealt and thus only need it in your short term memory.

It’s still bad because peoples could work as a team and look up the play after they folded in that hand then signal to each other

What if you have the ranges tattooed on your arm?

Is there any rule that says “short time memory bad; long term memory good”?

You can use a piece of paper. AFAIK not only is using a phone not permitted but could potentially get you arrested.

Anything on your phone/tablet shouldn't be allowed. I'd be fine with not allowing any assistance period(even paper), but again short of doing that you 100% should not allow RTA period. There is no "between hands" in tournaments.

Even inputting stack sizes into a nash push/fold calculator IMO meets the definition of RTA. Having a single piece of paper probably not.
It shouldn't be allowed in tournaments for the same reason its not allowed in blackjack. You're phone is infinitely more powerful than a piece of paper. Even between hands.

A very obvious example would be knowing you're going to be in the BTN next hand and looking up GTO preflop responses for BTN vs SB 3-bet and BTN vs BB 3-bet.

Either way it's pretty silly. Would you be comfortable playing online vs. someone you knew had GTOWizard open on his second monitor, but promised to only look up spots after hands were over?

There are lots of important things to devote attention to between hands when playing live mtts, including facial expressions and body language, stack sizes, conversations about thought processes and strategies, and reassessing player tendencies and potential exploits. If someone spends their time between hands studying pre-flop range charts, they're liable to lose a lot of other relevant information regarding how to play the next series of hands. I wouldn't especially mind if someone at the table had their head buried in charts between hands.

I heard somewhere that everything you do at the table conveys information.

if you're relying on short term memory then you're essentially unnaturally enhanced because you could use a computer or something else to store lots of information for you that you can then look up.

You can’t use that for both long and short term memory?

Let’s try a practical example. RFI range for stack size X from position Y:
Player 1 memorized it a couple weeks ago
Player 2 memorized it this morning, before the start of play
Player 3 memorized it one hour ago during dinner break
Player 4 memorized it 5 minutes ago in the bathroom
Player 5 memorized it 1 minute ago before the start of the last hand

Which ones of those are OK? If the answer is 1-4, would #5 change if the player stepped away from the table to look at his chart?

The point you're missing is they know exactly what spot is about to come up because they know positions, stack depths etc.

You might underestimate how much some players are able memorize.

Besides that, what about scenario #4? You went on bathroom break with a 14BB stack UTG+1. There's obviously no rule that says you can't look at your charts while away from the table. So when you get back to the table it's perfectly fine that you know exactly which range you shove on your next hand and the ones after that in case you folded the first one.

So let's say you're not allowed to look while sitting at the table. How many feet do you have to step away to check your stuff? Assuming we're not on a break, are you required to miss a hand for that or can you get up as soon as you folded the previous hand, walk 30 feet and be back before the start of the next hand?

completely fine between hands, everyone has access to this info. really good to look up your next position if you're short and need a quick refresh on shoves against the most likely opener.

You shouldn’t be able to look at charts while the game is running, full stop (in my opinion)

Poker is meant to be a game of skill, if we allow players with the resources to look at solutions to the first street (in MTTs arguably the most important street) it takes away from that

This is one of my new favorite comments on 2+2.

Someone that needs to constantly look things up after a live hand is most likely not very good and not someone you should be worried about.

Something like this should not be allowed. Charts should not be allowed at the table. You shouldn't be allowed to lookup the best play with QQ in UTG position with 13 BBs in middle of a tournament that is ridiculous. Before the tournament and on break study all you want but not at the table.

Do people think it should be legal to talk or text with friends for advice in between hands of a live tournament?

Live poker rooms can regulate the format of communication that occurs at a poker table. But for the most part it’s just not practical to regulate the content.

Probably first need to define "comfortable." In my case, I'm such a rec that even an opponent who last consulted a solver two weeks ago would scare me. It tells me knows his ****. Overall, I'd feel more "comfortable" facing someone for whom GTO means "that car my dad drove in the 1960s."

But to answer your question more seriously...

In practice? No. The problem with this scenario is that you can't really trust that the someone is doing what he promises to do.

Now, suppose he's playing on camera with his main screen visible, like a Twitch streamer does. And suppose also that he has his solver display behind him, such that you know exactly when he's looking up hands. And on top of that, the second monitor is such that you can see it, ensuring that the hand he's looking up is NOT the one currently running. Furthermore, you two have entered into an iron-clad agreement that you won't rat him out for using RTA, especially since you'll have solid evidence to that fact.

Under all of those circumstances, sure... I would have no big problem with it, especially if I was allowed to do the same.

Great answers guys I respect all the opinions here I still think is unfair advantage to use any resources at the table , completely fine to use it during the breaks or away of the table . I think is RTA because it happens in real time at the table and before your hand is dealt or during dealing you can check up your position as RFI , vs RFI , vs 3B , vs 4B.

Preflop Academy just announce the launch of mobile versions , so if I am using it every hand are you playing against me or against a very powerful software?
They also posted " please remember to close all poker client " so I think the creators are suggesting is not ok to using it during any game. It is design as a training /learning tool not to have a unfair advantage .