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Matt Matros wins his 3rd WSOP gold bracelet. Really exciting finish for anyone watching on the live stream too.

He becomes the 57th player in history to win 3 or more bracelets, after winning an event for a 3rd successive year. Sick accomplishment.

I'd never have guessed there was as many as 57 players with 3 or more bracelets.

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06-10-2012 , 10:14 AM

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leolauzon

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Cantu first in chips in Razz with 298 500. Hellmuth is 3rd. Other names : Greenstein, Clements, Fishman and Bleznick.

phil_hellmuth ‏@phil_hellmuth
287,500 in WSOP Razz, finished STRONG! 18 left, ave chips 128K. Knock knock #12, let me in!

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06-10-2012 , 10:23 AM

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Jarpin

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can you see anywhere at what time events start/resume?

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06-10-2012 , 10:29 AM

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leolauzon

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Originally Posted by Odysseus

low limit micro donks smashing their keyboards over Hellmuth's continued success.

He still didn't make a big score, but he has 4 cashes in 8 events played.

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06-10-2012 , 10:39 AM

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slevin90

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GO PH!

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06-10-2012 , 10:49 AM

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JPantz

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Ivey has 3 or 4 cashes too?

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06-10-2012 , 11:14 AM

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leolauzon

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Originally Posted by JPantz

Ivey has 3 or 4 cashes too?

I think in #14, 15 and 17.

But I feel like he is playing more events too. He is often playing two tournaments at the same time.

In event #16 he pushed blind 6 times in a row, won 5 races and stole blinds once, and went back to event #15 after more than quadrupling his stack in a couple of minutes.

Ivey could well be the best player in the world, but that "pushing blind and hope I get lucky, because anyway I have enough money to spend" is bull**** I think.

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06-10-2012 , 01:00 PM

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The Boot Room

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

In event #16 he pushed blind 6 times in a row, won 5 races and stole blinds once, and went back to event #15 after more than quadrupling his stack in a couple of minutes.

never thought that live poker could be faster than online...

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06-10-2012 , 01:15 PM

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Tre-fi

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Totally Brad Booth'd myself last night. Less scotch, less roulette....more poker. Lesson learned.

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06-10-2012 , 01:17 PM

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leolauzon

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Originally Posted by The Boot Room

never thought that live poker could be faster than online...

Would you really feel that much better if I said "a few minutes"? I'm not sure how you use it in english, but "couple" in french can be used to say a "few", and we could argue that sitting during the 20 minutes break is playing a "few" minutes. The sarcasm was certainly deserved...

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06-10-2012 , 01:37 PM

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R_Webb18

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

Ivey could well be the best player in the world, but that "pushing blind and hope I get lucky, because anyway I have enough money to spend" is bull**** I think.

you do understand he did this when he was deep in anthor tourney. he didn't want his stack to be blinded dead incase he lost so he would rather get lucky or lose imo.

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06-10-2012 , 01:58 PM

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slevin90

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

Haters gonna hate.

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06-10-2012 , 02:00 PM

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swighey

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

Ivey could well be the best player in the world, but that "pushing blind and hope I get lucky, because anyway I have enough money to spend" is bull**** I think.

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Originally Posted by R_Webb18

you do understand he did this when he was deep in anthor tourney. he didn't want his stack to be blinded dead incase he lost so he would rather get lucky or lose imo.

I think you are both right. What is significant though is that, at this level (buy-in) of play, he is a player with a big edge. So the latter is a fairer comment.

Last edited by swighey; 06-10-2012 at 02:00 PM. Reason: typo

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06-10-2012 , 02:05 PM

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swighey

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

He still didn't make a big score, but he has 4 cashes in 8 events played.

4 cashes out of 8 is a pretty good start. Plus he busted a holdem tourney early with AA vs JJ, and appeared (to my feeble non stud8 expert mind) to make no obvious mistakes in his best end game so far. Plus 3/18 in razz. I'd say that's a pretty damn good start to a series and I hope he makes it 12. "13, 13, 13" doesn't quite have the same ring to it so maybe he'll shut up.

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06-10-2012 , 02:48 PM

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4bet_bluff

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

What exactly would you purpose he do? Just blind his stack away to be nice to the people at his table because this money may mean more to them? You are clueless

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06-10-2012 , 03:48 PM

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nintendere

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Hellmuth has actually played in eleven events, but nevertheless is off to a good start. You can check his stats of the 2012 WSOP here.

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06-10-2012 , 03:58 PM

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leolauzon

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Originally Posted by slevin90

Haters gonna hate.

I'm not a hater, I think he is the best answer for "best poker player". I just think that entering two events at the same time and going all-in blind 6 times in a row in one of the event is a weird way of playing poker. Isn't it?

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06-10-2012 , 03:59 PM

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Loctus

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Would be hilarious if Jared Bleznick wins the razz event

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06-10-2012 , 04:00 PM

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swighey

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Ok maybe not pretty damn good but just pretty good.

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06-10-2012 , 04:03 PM

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leolauzon

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Originally Posted by 4bet_bluff

What exactly would you purpose he do? Just blind his stack away to be nice to the people at his table because this money may mean more to them? You are clueless

If you can't really play an event, and have to push your stack blind during breaks just to hope you will get lucky, maybe you shouldn't enter it.

I don't think it's a real problem, there is certainly worst things going on in poker, but I still think it's a weird way of playing a tournament. If you think it's normal, good for you. It's not as if I really care about the matter.

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06-10-2012 , 04:14 PM

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swighey

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Originally Posted by leolauzon

Yes it's terrible. And I'd be shocked if Ivey didn't agree. But he played both for two shots at a bracelet and was deep in one and......

Are roller skates allowed at the Rio? Maybe next time he could speed up his multi-tabling shenanigans.

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06-10-2012 , 04:15 PM

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shinja59

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How do people not get why he would do that? Let's break it down:

- In terms of tournament equity its obviously horrible.

- In terms of bracelet bet equity and the implicit notion that every event he plays is essentially a winner-take-all for at least a couple million, then its a total slam dunk.

Thus, it serves his purposes to try to get lucky and build up a big stack or to bust so that he can focus on the other tourney he's currently deep in. He probably had less than fifteen minutes to try to accomplish this, so playing (or in this case shoving) every hand is massively +EV for his bracelet bets regardless of whether he busts or runs it up.