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Old 06-22-2012, 12:45 AM   #3601
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Re: ***OFFICIAL WSOP SWEAT THREAD***

thats bull****

if you are making a deal to chop 3rd and 2nd, you should also put in the deal Antonio gets 1st place. Or else, stop the ***** collusion
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:45 AM   #3602
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Re: ***OFFICIAL WSOP SWEAT THREAD***

Nothing against the people in the booth, but they have no idea how collusion or ICM works.

"It won't effect their shoving ranges."

Nice work.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:46 AM   #3603
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meh

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Old 06-22-2012, 12:46 AM   #3604
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kinda,maybe,sorta?

no it just definitely would be blatantly colluding
I was trying to be a smartass. not real good at it sometimes
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:48 AM   #3605
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send these cheaters home
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:48 AM   #3606
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That deal is obvious collusion, wtf.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:49 AM   #3607
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they were just all in against each other with q8 and A rag.

maybe there wasnt a deal
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:50 AM   #3608
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So typical of the Brits-drunk holigans acting like idiots. Its in there upbringing this idiotic behaviour.
Im not there biggest fan and drunk loud brits can be very annoying but thats a bit harsh.

Most of them are just enjoying themselves.If they dont cause any trouble then its so harmless
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:50 AM   #3609
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Antonio would obv say or do something if he felt cheated
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:50 AM   #3610
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Respect for Antonio dealing with these clowns.

Some clowns tried to do this in a daily tournament to me and my reaction was much worse than his 3 handed in a WSOP event.

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Antonio would obv say or do something if he felt cheated

Its hard dealing with this. 95% of the players don't understand why they can't do it and none of the floor guys do(hopefully someone at WSOP does).
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:51 AM   #3611
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Re: ***OFFICIAL WSOP SWEAT THREAD***

No rule against collusion @ the WSOP?
if on stars if all players don't agree to a chop it doesn't happen
could you image if 2nd and 3nd chatted that they were going to make there own unofficial deal?
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:53 AM   #3612
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they were just all in against each other with q8 and A rag.

maybe there wasnt a deal
if they chopped 2nd 3rd doesn't care & what if 2nd told 3rd you'l get even more if i finish 1st... would that also be allowed????????
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:56 AM   #3613
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It definitely feels like collusion, however, how would it be any different if they were buddies and swapped half their buy in with each other before the tourney?
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:57 AM   #3614
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Just to be clear obviously its against the rules:

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The competitive integrity of all Tournament play at the World Series of Poker is paramount. All participants must adhere to the spirit and letter of the Official Rules of the WSOP which forbid play or any action that is illegal, unethical or constitutes cheating or collusion in any form.
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Cheating is defined as any act a person engages in to break the established rules of play to gain an advantage.
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Cheating includes, but is not limited to, acts such as: collusion; chip stealing; transferring non-value Tournament chips from one event to another; card marking; card substitution; or the use of any kind of cheating device.
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Collusion is defined as any agreement amongst two (2) or more Participants to engage in illegal or unethical acts against other Participants.
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Chip dumping is defined as any agreement amongst two (2) or more Participants for one or more of the Participants to bet chips with the intent of increasing another Participant's stack.
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Soft play is defined as any agreement amongst two (2) or more Participants to not bet or raise each other in order to minimize the number of chips lost by those Participants participating in the agreement.
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Collusion includes, but is not limited to, acts such as: chip dumping; soft play; sharing card information with another Participant; sending or receiving signals from or to another Participant; the use of electronic communication with the intent to facilitate collusion; and any other act that Rio and WSOP deem inappropriate.

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It definitely feels like collusion, however, how would it be any different if they were buddies and swapped half their buy in with each other before the tourney?
You don't swap before a tourney to nuke the chipleaders ICM advantage.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:57 AM   #3615
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:58 AM   #3616
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Ironic that this is a Shoetout. Me thinks not.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:58 AM   #3617
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Fitzpatrick really chipping up. If he felts McCorkel, it won't be much of a lead for Antonio.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:01 AM   #3618
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Whether or not the deal even happened or not it's flat out absurd that kind've deal would be brought up. If I was Antonio I would be pissed that they even mentioned making a deal between 2nd and 3rd..
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:01 AM   #3619
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It definitely feels like collusion, however, how would it be any different if they were buddies and swapped half their buy in with each other before the tourney?
It's different because they wouldn't know they were going to be 3 handed where both were short vs the leader, they made a deal to eliminate icm that why many player refuses to ever chop as they are holding over the shorts.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:03 AM   #3620
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So typical of the Brits-drunk holigans acting like idiots. Its in there upbringing this idiotic behaviour.
Believe me these dorks aren't hooligans, in fact quite the opposite, they would be mortified at the thought of having an actual fight with anybody, they are just being obnoxious because of a lethal mixture of too much booze than they are used too and the exciting thrill of being away from their parents houses for a few weeks!
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:05 AM   #3621
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lol at WSOP Jack going from trying to force players into announcing all their actions to openly allowing collusion attempts at a live streamed final table.

they really need to clean house if they want to be this public
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:08 AM   #3622
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busted! lol
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:08 AM   #3623
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Fitzpatrick is coming over Atonio's raises a LOT. Hope AE wakes up with AA one of these times.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:08 AM   #3624
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'S-goin' on here?
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:08 AM   #3625
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here comes the cops
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