He doesn't think its privateworld and he banned privatelife for saying "scummy wife"

At least that's the way I read it and I do actually agree, no need to bring Eli's wife in to it unless there is hard evidence that she does scam with Eli.

Seems weird to ban him for that tiny comment but hey, mods gonna mod.

Anyway I will follow orders and leave the thread now.

have a good one

Seemed like a “straw that broke the camel’s back” deal, along with the increasingly unbelievable inside scoops and the unhinged “Eli is history’s greatest monster” rants.

Meh a warning at best. His posts are for the most part probably true. There must be some truth to these scams as no pros are speaking up on his behalf... no one endorses his book. If he had any moral decency I'm sure he'd have tons of
Poker peers defending him.

As for the wife... she's likely no babe in the woods.
Considering the missteps that 2+2 has taken from the very onset of this book.... I don't think 2+2 should be censoring free speech when it's far more believable than what Eli has written... yet 2+2 is publishing those lies; albeit by mistake.

What Sect7G says is a spot on summary of the most likely situation here, imo.

Letting PW or the impostor run wild is too much tho, so I agree with the ban.

Rare occasion I gotta go along with R*R, this was obvious to me that it's NOT PWorld. PTime was regurgitating old Eli gossip/facts and honestly, to my disappointment, not good for a laugh or two. The whole Eli mess was becoming a yawn fest. Won't miss him/her.

By the same token none (or at least very few, it’s been a confusing story) of these pros have come here speaking against him either. Supposedly EE was sending out mass texts to a group of pros who universally hate him, and calling random numbers to beg for his life. Seems like one of those pros would corroborate that tale.

Given how much he was whining about PrivateWorld's banning in the Eli threads I'm leaning toward it being Todd Witteles screwing with us.

A fine banning.

There should be an automatic ban IMHO when you post 4+ times in a row (some forum boards automatically disallow multiple consecutive posts), with some of them in ALL CAP, etc. R*R did right here.

Meh. If we call it a "borderline ban", I think 2p2 should be erring on the side of not banning. On this issue in particular, 2p2 upper management went over the top with the Privateworld quote ban with no good reason (which I asked them specifically to reconsider and they never answered), then for a time deleting the entire thread.

Bobo and I chatted and he didn't think it was fair for me to characterize this heavy handedness as a trend (specifically he didn't agree with me including the Zima incident on my list). If he's right, fine, but here's another debatable one. How about we err on the side of not squelching posts for a while?

Finally - I agree that R&R's reason for banning is a bit confusing, see the above posts.

1. All caps - straw that broke the camel's back? Or is that usually bannable? (honest question)

2. Eli's wife - well, an anonymous poster has made allegations of scummy behaviour - is that bannable? (Again, honest question, I know unsupported allegations can cross a line, but how does anyone bring relevant gossip forward then for discussion / consideration?)

3. Gimmick - upper management bans Privateworld quoting, but then Privatelife gets banned for NOT actually being Privateworld? Do all posters have to start proving who they are IRL to post? If Privateworld and/or Privatelife is 'real' he certainly has very good reason to protect his identity. Why should he trust R*R? It's an unfair request and likely drove him away permanently.

Finally, you can counter-argue some of the above, but on the whole, can't we make it easier for people to share info for a while instead of harder? This would do more to convince me this isn't a lasting trend than Bobo saying it-just-ain't-so. I trust Bobo's intent, but don't like the recent senior management reactive actions.

Cheers

The guy was a complete fake and was trolling everyone. I'm trying to save the embarrassment of people getting sucked in by a moron like PrivateLife.

If this person has real information he is welcome to come back in under another account and post like a normal person without all the lame theatrics.

I and I think most mods have always done their utmost to make this happen so it's already being done with as much transparency as possible.

I think the mods are doing a good job to keep nvg very average. Really bad posters and really good posters get banned quickly. It’s almost as if the site doesn’t want attention. But I agree with the all caps thing, that was uncalled for.

I've been thinking and I don't think the Eli AMA thread should be locked. It should have remained open and been retitled. This way it doesn't get buried by lack of activity.

It's not too late. Perhaps this thread can still be merged with the original? Does anyone agree?

I hope by "most mods" you're not including yourself? I have no idea how you can respond with that while ignoring valid questions from multiple people (about a ban no less). Bobo engages in respectful discussion - you seem to send issues here to die.

Some of us participate in the mod thread to try to make 2p2 better. On this topic that doesn't feel welcomed, so I'm disengaging.

Imo, You will find no moderator on any forum anywhere that can provide responses consistently at the excellent level Bobo does so on that point you are completely correct.

I am not going to write a detailed response to the banning of that moron. As far
as I'm concerned that would be a complete waste of time. I apologize for not appeasing you.

I'll give the short answer now. He's a moron. He's banned. But, by all means, you go ahead and plead his case. But I would have preferred you didn't use the sanctimonious make the forum better bull**** on me.

Further on the topic of accounts being permabanned in NVG I would like to add this. It is extremely rare that posters of any kind (accepting spammers) get permabanned as the result of their posting in NVG.

Where do I report someone spamming me in the private messages? I've looked all over and can't find anything.

Forward the PM to any mod or to Mat or to Bobo, etc.

Thanks, I'll send it to you.

Genius way to get away with spamming whosnext.
WP sir

What honestly is the difference between privateworld coming on and saying things, some true and some not, versus any other poster coming on here and giving hearsay about people or games? Would the second person not be telling some true and some false stories.

I understand trolling intentionally to hurt someone is unacceptable behavior here, but the second person described above instead of trolling, is just accidentally doing the same thing.

Does that make sense to you professional poker? I get why he(they) is(are) banned, but the reality is that both types of posters end up doing the same thing, for different reasons.

Privateworld obv had much more clout and a following then an average poster, because some of the things posted were bombshells and were proven to be true, so I understand why you would need to stop that account.

It all has to do with intention and presentation. PW intended to deceive and troll. If any other member presented info as "facts" that were damaging to someone, they too could be banned.

If they clearly present it as opinion, hearsay, or conjecture then there is some leeway. If the info is proven false it is usually deleted and if the account that posted the false info is not making a habit of trolling with false claims, there are no repercussions to that account.

For those that didn't see this in the latest Eli thread:



I exchanged several PMs with PW with the hopes that the account was legit and could be kept live, but alas when he sent me that, and posted some clearly defamatory info, we had to pull the plug.

The two Daniels were Cates and DNegs.

Ah, ok thanks.

I really feel I should not have been banned for 2 days. It wasn't that post that did it. Paraphrasing; I'm not going to say free privateworld even though he is a top 10 best and insightful poster here because I don't want a ban.

Yes, it was a troll, but I thought also kinda funny? Guess I just said it at the wrong time (right after a warning to stop saying free privateworld)

Am I right in thinking this may have been an overreaction, or not. Just making sure on my end.

I'm not upset about it at all, kinda fun to get banned here at least once, I've been here for 10+ years and I only got this new account bc I wanted to make a prediction for 2019 predictions thread in oot saying I would have exactly 1000 posts on Jan 1rst, 2019, so I had to stop posting on that one. Lame joke there too, I guess.

Hey so why I got temp ban ? Bc I said some fake person is drama queen ?