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11-15-2017 , 06:29 PM
Moving NVG to the top of the Poker News and Discussion subforum list is extremely distressing, as my muscle memory is hard-wired to click the middle. PLEASE HELP
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11-16-2017 , 01:47 AM
So how have you been enjoying BBV and TWSS?
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11-16-2017 , 05:45 AM
BBV is a sad shell of its former self, and TWSS I had not visited in years until... oh. I see what you're up to.
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11-16-2017 , 06:25 AM
Just deciding now what I should put in that spot next week. Maybe French BBV and Psychology.
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11-18-2017 , 03:16 PM
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Just deciding now what I should put in that spot next week. Maybe French BBV and Psychology.
icwydt and giggled

/suckupedness
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12-01-2017 , 05:34 PM
How do I send a private message to a mod?
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12-01-2017 , 06:03 PM
As a spam deterrent you wont have PMs for a few days. You can send an email using the contact us link at the bottom of the page.

If you want to send a message to all the mods click and it will go in as a post report.
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12-01-2017 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
As a spam deterrent you wont have PMs for a few days. You can send an email using the contact us link at the bottom of the page.

If you want to send a message to all the mods click and it will go in as a post report.
Sent to all.

Thanks.
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12-02-2017 , 09:18 AM
I've had already accounts banned. (I don't know why!) I need to speak to a mod before I start posting.
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12-02-2017 , 01:44 PM
If this pertains specifically to NVG, discussing the issue in this thread is fine.

If this does not specifically pertain to NVG, posting in ATF (About the Forums) or in the forum in which you wish to discuss/post is fine.

In general, if you'd like to speak privately to a mod, you can PM him/her.

If you do not yet have PM capabilities, you can email Mat at mat@twoplustwo.com
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12-02-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
If this pertains specifically to NVG, discussing the issue in this thread is fine.

If this does not specifically pertain to NVG, posting in ATF (About the Forums) or in the forum in which you wish to discuss/post is fine.

In general, if you'd like to speak privately to a mod, you can PM him/her.

If you do not yet have PM capabilities, you can email Mat at mat@twoplustwo.com
Thank you. I sent an email.

I feel I've done all that I can to contact someone regarding my issue. With that said I'm starting a thread in the house of blog section. If the mods who banned me last time want to contact me before I do so that is fine with me.

Again. Thank you and have a great day.
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12-02-2017 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by casablanca
I've had already accounts banned. (I don't know why!)
Your now deleted post asking how to contact House of Blogs mods, of all places in the OOT Ana de Armas thread (in which the OP specifically warns infractions for posting anything even slightly off topic) might give some clues.....
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12-02-2017 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
HashTagKing's poker pesona and less than desirable previous behaviour is a side issue.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that HTK is exactly who this thread is about, and your views on the rule of law are the side issue.
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12-02-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Actually, I'm pretty sure that HTK is exactly who this thread is about, and your views on the rule of law are the side issue.
Given that the thread title contains the words "assault" and "police need help", the rule of law is an integral part of the issue and the discussion.

Without the legal aspects being discussed by various people ITT, the thread would be heavily weighted towards, "oh he deserved it", "couldn't happen to a nicer person", "only a matter of time before this happened to him".

The actual issue is very serious and very pertinent to the world of poker and gambling.

Note that this very forum has its own staking section where non-legally binding transactions are facilitated.
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12-02-2017 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Given that the thread title contains the words "assault" and "police need help", the rule of law is an integral part of the issue and the discussion.
I'm not suggesting they couldn't or shouldn't be part of the discussion. I was pointing out the irony of you dismissing the subject of the thread as a side issue, while attempting to make your views of an actual side issue the central point of discussion.

I only jumped in because I've seen 3 people post in the last few days that you are the primary reason why they read NVG far less than they used to. You don't often make a single post that can be easily pointed to as the problem, yet you constantly manage to take threads and turn them into a discussion about your views on something, often tangential to the original topic. This has been pointed out to you numerous times in a variety of ways, but the message is usually not received and/or understood by you.
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12-02-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'm not suggesting they couldn't or shouldn't be part of the discussion. I was pointing out the irony of you dismissing the subject of the thread as a side issue, while attempting to make your views of an actual side issue the central point of discussion.

I only jumped in because I've seen 3 people post in the last few days that you are the primary reason why they read NVG far less than they used to. You never make a single post that can be easily pointed to as a problem, yet you constantly manage to take threads and turn them into a discussion about your views on something, often tangential to the original topic. This has been pointed out to you numerous times in a variety of ways, but the message is usually not received and/or understood by you.
It feels like it's you doing most of the complaining, not other people.

IMO you are a bit of a nuisance on many threads. I've seen you many times try to, or actually, shut down various people on threads because of your own personal viewpoints on the topic, not because their posts were bad, off topic, or broke any rules, but because you lost your own self control over maintaining impartiality as a moderator.

Far from being a negative for NVG traffic and participation, I've started some threads recently and before that have created debate and traffic.
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12-02-2017 , 08:23 PM
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12-02-2017 , 08:23 PM
SD, you're slipping. You barely have more than three times as many posts as anyone else itt.
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12-02-2017 , 08:27 PM
Bobo > SD

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12-02-2017 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
It feels like it's you doing most of the complaining, not other people.
Then...YOU have not been paying attention. I am one of the 3 Bobo mentioned...although really, it could be any number of "us". I quit following threads where you post because it OFTEN devolves into finger-pointed at Sage Donkey.....and a ton of responses like "oh, NVG is so much more civil now that I have DS on my Ignore List."

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IMO you are a bit of a nuisance on many threads. I've seen you many times try to, or actually, shut down various people on threads because of your own personal viewpoints on the topic, not because their posts were bad, off topic, or broke any rules, but because you lost your own self control over maintaining impartiality as a moderator.
THIS shows an awesomely enormous misread.

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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
Far from being a negative for NVG traffic and participation, I've started some threads recently and before that have created debate and traffic.
As long as you realize you attract more trolls than serious replies to your threads/posts and THAT is the metric to your "creating debate and traffic". It IS ok that you make these posts..... just realize it is the opinion of many that your posts don't have the value to this forum that you believe.
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12-02-2017 , 08:33 PM
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SD, you're slipping. You barely have more than three times as many posts as anyone else itt.
Well, this is often how a conversation goes, back and forth. You're in Green so I guess that means a moderator too? I have no complaints about you but what BoboFett has routinely done to me is tantamount to trolling.

He even admitted he enjoyed bashing me on a thread, (one about poker winnings being donated to charity.)

Mods have a job to do and are generally doing a very good job, but him criticising me for discussing the legal side of this incident is ridiculous when various other posts before and after mine include the same issue.
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12-02-2017 , 08:40 PM
I, for one, am down for this but I suggest starting another thread to accommodate it.
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12-02-2017 , 08:41 PM
He definitely gets treated unfairly.

You would think he holds a gun to your head and forces you to read War & Peace.
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12-02-2017 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by King Spew
Then...YOU have not been paying attention. I am one of the 3 Bobo mentioned...although really, it could be any number of "us". I quit following threads where you post because it OFTEN devolves into finger-pointed at Sage Donkey.....and a ton of responses like "oh, NVG is so much more civil now that I have DS on my Ignore List."



THIS shows an awesomely enormous misread.


As long as you realize you attract more trolls than serious replies to your threads/posts and THAT is the metric to your "creating debate and traffic". It IS ok that you make these posts..... just realize it is the opinion of many that your posts don't have the value to this forum that you believe.
I believe some people don't like some of my posts because they can't stand their views being questioned or debated against, especially if they are losing the debate. So a childish get out is to personally attack me.

This is much more prevalent on this poker forum than other poker forums and happens very little on non poker forums.

One can see that there are a huge number of forum lurkers who rarely post (low post counts, long time members), IMO because they know they run the risk of being personally attacked if they state their honest, reasoned opinions.
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12-02-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
I believe some people don't like some of my posts because they can't stand their views being questioned or debated against, especially if they are losing the debate. So a childish get out is to personally attack me.

This is much more prevalent on this poker forum than other poker forums and happens very little on non poker forums.

One can see that there are a huge number of forum lurkers who rarely post (low post counts, long time members), IMO because they know they run the risk of being personally attacked if they state their honest, reasoned opinions.
Just to be clear, your opinions may not offer much to debate. Some of your opinions are not defensible...yet you defend with faux veracity and absolute verbosity.
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