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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
It would have been a temp ban, not a full ban, but I don't know if that was clear.
And I respectfully disagree with your assessment that allowing people to joke about who else should do the world a favor and commit suicide or making jokes about people losing to bullets shouldn't be cracked down on fairly harshly.
In the one thread, comments about BF or medication or mental illness HAVE been allowed; I only deleted stuff that was way over the line or discussions that had the likelihood of resulting in a major derail.
There's a fine line in situations like this as to what constitutes a derail. My only goal is keeping the threads generally on track and stamping out offensive bull****. Please note that nothing Go Get It posted was offensive (since he also asked about one of those threads).
No one who isn't trying to troll or derail has nothing to worry about. No one has been banned or even infracted for a single post in either of the recent threads that deal with suicide. Worst case scenario, if I think the discussion has gone too far off topic, it'll get deleted.
But there are plenty of places to just discuss Black Friday. I'm not going to allow a thread about some poor guy who killed himself turn into a retread of the standard complaints (lol us government, I lost all my money, whatever).
It certainly wasn't clear what kind of ban it would be. You've since deleted the particular post, but your admonition was "will be banned."
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SGT: In the one thread, comments about BF or medication or mental illness HAVE been allowed; I only deleted stuff that was way over the line or discussions that had the likelihood of resulting in a major derail.
Hmmm, then why did you post this in that thread?
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
RIP threads are not the appropriate place to argue about psychiatric medication or rail against the US government.
Please refrain from political statements and allow this thread to be about expressions of condolences only.
Thank you.
Again, I respectfully disagree with your opinion that Black Friday or psychiatric medication or USGov, etc., should be discussed elsewhere. All are clearly within the purview of this young man's tragic death. It's worth noting that it becomes rather pointless for a mod to try and parse every black-friday-related post in an NVG thread about a suicide to determine its precise signal/noise content. And your prevailing posture was to use a chainsaw where you needed a scalpel. My point is you should err on the side of free expression, and your constant threats of banning, etc. hamper the free exchange of thoughts and ideas. I, for one, did not post in that thread for fear my ideas may be misconstrued by you -- once banned (again, you didn't make it clear you meant
temp ban), what then?
In response to this specific piece of rhetoric of yours:
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SGT: And I respectfully disagree with your assessment that allowing people to joke about who else should do the world a favor and commit suicide or making jokes about people losing to bullets shouldn't be cracked down on fairly harshly.
-- here's what I said:
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Prometh: By allowing free discussion and expression, yes, you may have inappropriate posts, but the benefit of free discussion far outweighs the tastelessness of rude posters whose posts can easily be deleted, and for whom moderate punishment would suffice
That you would insinuate I am in favor of cruel posts is unfair, and speaks to your general unwillingness to respect the opinions of others. My point is that rude posts are easily taken care of: you simply delete them and mete out
appropriate punishment. Taunting and threatening readers of a thread from its outset in an attempt to preempt idiocy is idiocy in itself.
It's worth noting that most people do not know the kid who died even remotely, so its only pertinence in a general gossip/news/
VIEWS forum is for the general poker public to discuss those aspects of the death that pertain to them. If anything, the thread should have been moved, not micro-managed and suppressed with threats from an angry mod. That you are unnecessarily quoting the content you deleted, the inappropriate jokes and cruel words, undermines your argument altogether. Who exactly are you protecting by deleting such posts, anyway, if you're just going to restate the words for everyone to see?
I was one of those a couple of years ago who rallied and petitioned for you to become a mod, if you'll recall, and was delighted when you became one, but your actions in this thread and others show an ugliness I find regrettable.
Last edited by PromethEV+s; 04-30-2013 at 10:23 PM.