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05-16-2023 , 11:30 AM
FYI: I modified the title of that thread.
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05-16-2023 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton

BULL ****. I call bs. You stating that i make walls of text, does NOT erase this **** from the internet. It just IMPLIES you have erased it.
Not sure what you're talking about but I haven't implied that I've erased anything. I couldn't erase anything even if I wanted to. I'm just saying I haven't read any of your posts cuz they're too damn long.
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EVERYONE knows not only is it charlie that is being accused but that hes being harassed by it.
You are SAYING you don't see it or believe it but its CLEAR.
Again, not sure what you're talking about. I said that I thought that thread title mistakenly implied that someone was being accused of being a pedophile. Apparently your posts aren't just long but are littered with mistaken accusations.
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05-16-2023 , 12:17 PM
I think Bobo Fett should be given a 14day temp-ban.
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05-16-2023 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
I still don't know why the thread title is inaccurate. If somebody wants to change it, I have no objections to that.

That was exactly my reasoning. Personally, outside post reports I stay far away from those kinds of threads.
I know this. I'm alerting you to something. Thats not a thread to ignore, and i think that zero mods here that are disagreeing with me and have also listened to polk and charlie speak. You clearly aren't one of them...

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Originally Posted by Garick
This is inaccurate. Until this post, I didn't know. Nor did I care. I have never opened the thread, and the title just told me that two people (only one of whom I had previously heard of) were throwing accusations at each other. As that kind of drama does not interest me, I did not know which of them was accusing the other of what. The thread title warns people what is inside, so they can go in if that kind of drama interests them, or avoid it if not. I choose option B.
I would like the mods to note that the thread title has confused this poster into thinking that charlie might be a pedophile. I doubt this poster thinks doug is being accused of being the pedophile. Garrick you have been mislead by the title. It should say "Doug Polk wrongly accusing of a child rape victim of being a pedophile and gets his internet following to ruin the victims life. Its not a thread about not knowing who is the pedophile. There is not pedophile in the thread. Its an EXTREMLY DEFAMITORY AND DAMAGING ACTION AND ACCUSTATION.

There is a debate in the thread, but its not real.

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Originally Posted by gregorio
Not sure what you're talking about but I haven't implied that I've erased anything. I couldn't erase anything even if I wanted to. I'm just saying I haven't read any of your posts cuz they're too damn long.

Again, not sure what you're talking about. I said that I thought that thread title mistakenly implied that someone was being accused of being a pedophile. Apparently your posts aren't just long but are littered with mistaken accusations.
I am accusing every single mod and leader here....right because obvious there are ton of fake accounts and I don't mean to speak to those accounts.... of judging all of this before you know what the content is. I don't think you are saying you have heard the tape of what doug has done, I don't think you know what doug said. I am saying its not a debate, its a fake debate, and the mods in here would see this if they checked the content...

and I don't really care about you all in this regard...

but Im saying, doug's lawyers have CLEARY told him not to acknowledge his mistake. Doug CLEARLY lawyered up in the confrontation. You can HEAR IT in his tone and response.

2p2 is OBVIOUSLY the number one source of immutable evidence of this damage that has been done. When I say you have lost the plot, I mean you haven't been defending poker for many years. fine..BUT now you have a scandal involving damages from accusation of pedophilia that no court or person is going to sympathize with doug OR 2p2 on.

It doesn't matter what these idiots post or how many of them there are of them. ..
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You might want to at least get screened for narcissism.
It think maybe ya'll are responding with out checking out the content. I've been around for years, I know the lot of you well enough, I think you might want to check out whats actually going on.
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05-16-2023 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
I know this. I'm alerting you to something. Thats not a thread to ignore
If you report a post in that thread I will look at said post. That's the extent to which I am getting involved with you or that thread.
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05-17-2023 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
I would like the mods to note that the thread title has confused this poster into thinking that charlie might be a pedophile. I doubt this poster thinks doug is being accused of being the pedophile.
Garick said nothing of the sort.

Of course I have no idea why I'm replying to you, since I've asked you the same question twice and have been ignored each time.

But just for the hell of it, I'll throw another question out there. What is it you want? The thread title was changed before your last long diatribe, and you've been told what you should do if you see objectional posts (report them), so what is it you're after now?
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05-17-2023 , 01:03 AM
I just deleted another lengthy jbouton post in this thread about the Carrell-Polk "situation" and how mods need to view some videos.

In case there is any doubt, NVG mods are not tasked with taking sides on this or any other "controversy" in the poker world. In fact, I would argue that the forum is better off if NVG mods refrain from taking sides. (Of course, jbouton's initial demand that NVG mods perma-ban any accounts that support Doug Polk and/or criticize Charlie Carrell is ridiculous and a non-starter.)

Subsequent posts along those lines in this thread will be deleted as well.
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05-17-2023 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Garick said nothing of the sort.

Of course I have no idea why I'm replying to you, since I've asked you the same question twice and have been ignored each time.

But just for the hell of it, I'll throw another question out there. What is it you want? The thread title was changed before your last long diatribe, and you've been told what you should do if you see objectional posts (report them), so what is it you're after now?
I don't ever mean to ignore you, I always mean to respect you like of the top leaders here. I just was trying implicitly answer you.
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I don't see how this is a derail, as what he is posting about is exactly what the thread is here for.

jbouton, I'm completely lost as to what you think is unfair/untrue about that thread title. It's a thread about Carrell and Polk, and it contains stealing, pedophile, and other accusations. What am I missing?
You aren't understanding me. I am telling the few humans on this site, that treat me like I am human, that if you don't know the content of that thread, you probably should watch the time stamp I gave.

You can clearly hear the influence of dougs lawyers, who seemingly said Do NOT backtrack on this.

I have long made the running half joke half real observation that this black is a pool/hang out for feds every since preblack friday. The overton window has shifted on that subject thats for sure. But for anything that lends to the reality of that joke you... guys don't have those protections anymore.

just an observation.
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05-17-2023 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
I just deleted another lengthy jbouton post in this thread about the Carrell-Polk "situation" and how mods need to view some videos.

In case there is any doubt, NVG mods are not tasked with taking sides on this or any other "controversy" in the poker world. In fact, I would argue that the forum is better off if NVG mods refrain from taking sides. (Of course, jbouton's initial demand that NVG mods perma-ban any accounts that support Doug Polk and/or criticize Charlie Carrell is ridiculous and a non-starter.)

Subsequent posts along those lines in this thread will be deleted as well.
They are going to charge you as an individual directly with the damage to this guys life . And you have no plausible deniability.
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05-17-2023 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
I don't ever mean to ignore you, I always mean to respect you like of the top leaders here. I just was trying implicitly answer you.

You aren't understanding me. I am telling the few humans on this site, that treat me like I am human, that if you don't know the content of that thread, you probably should watch the time stamp I gave.

You can clearly hear the influence of dougs lawyers, who seemingly said Do NOT backtrack on this.

I have long made the running half joke half real observation that this black is a pool/hang out for feds every since preblack friday. The overton window has shifted on that subject thats for sure. But for anything that lends to the reality of that joke you... guys don't have those protections anymore.

just an observation.
Thanks for responding, but none of this answers the question, which was what was unfair or untrue about the title. Since the title's been changed now, I suppose it really doesn't matter at this point.

The important question now, IMO, is my last one:

What is it you want? The thread title was changed before your last long diatribe, and you've been told what you should do if you see objectional posts (report them), so what is it you're after now?

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Originally Posted by jbouton
They are going to charge you as an individual directly with the damage to this guys life . And you have no plausible deniability.
So...he changes the thread title, which was what you wanted to see, and...he's going to be charged? Dude, I'm afraid you're the one who's lost the plot at this point. I think it would be best for your mental health if you were to step away from that thread and maybe the forums for a little while, because you're not making a lot of sense.
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05-17-2023 , 02:10 AM
jbouton is now on a 3-day vacation
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05-17-2023 , 06:22 AM
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jbouton is now on a 3-day vacation
Well, thank **** for that. Hopefully he takes the time to get the help he needs.
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05-17-2023 , 11:59 PM
I want to know more about these feds.
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05-19-2023 , 08:30 AM
Apparently they consist of anyone who disagrees with jbouton, particularly on the subjects of crypto currency or John Nash. Not sure who the bots are. Maybe the people who ignore jbouton's rants?
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05-20-2023 , 10:22 AM
Can we increase editing time by like 15 mins? I feel like my lack of proof reading skills and ADHD is problematic when I debate topics of actual intelligence, however I run bad when I don’t proof read and then realise after someone else has already posted and quoted me.

Also, at what stage do you give up an argument knowing that a group/ poster is going to double down no matter what and you don’t want to be disrespectful to them so you take the L on a matter.
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05-20-2023 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshko

Also, at what stage do you give up an argument knowing that a group/ poster is going to double down no matter what and you don’t want to be disrespectful to them so you take the L on a matter.
You’re a grownup. A grownup who lies about being Russian for some reason but a grownup nonetheless. Make the choice to stop arguing. You don’t need mods to tell you.
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05-20-2023 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshko
Can we increase editing time by like 15 mins? I feel like my lack of proof reading skills and ADHD is problematic when I debate topics of actual intelligence, however I run bad when I don’t proof read and then realise after someone else has already posted and quoted me.
That would be a topic for this forum:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55/about-forums/

FWIW, by the time someone quoted you, editing the original post doesn't serve that big of a purpose anymore anyway.
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05-20-2023 , 02:53 PM
if we did allow late edits then it should include a manner for people to see what was originally posted

there's more at stake here than koshko's grammar, a lot of people have large sums wagered/staked/etc based upon what is publicly posted in the forum - these wagers were setup with the knowledge that a post couldn't be edited after a token period of time

we're opening up to a lot of possible freerolls and people backing out etc, even today the viffer/jungleman dispute is being arbitrated by forum posts they both made in 2007

please do not under any circumstances increase editing time - it'll **** up a whole lot legacy stuff here
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05-20-2023 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
if we did allow late edits then it should include a manner for people to see what was originally posted

there's more at stake here than koshko's grammar, a lot of people have large sums wagered/staked/etc based upon what is publicly posted in the forum - these wagers were setup with the knowledge that a post couldn't be edited after a token period of time

we're opening up to a lot of possible freerolls and people backing out etc, even today the viffer/jungleman dispute is being arbitrated by forum posts they both made in 2007

please do not under any circumstances increase editing time - it'll **** up a whole lot legacy stuff here
Yeah that’s completely fair imo. My poor grandmama skills going to have to wait.
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05-23-2023 , 02:58 PM
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You might want to at least get screened for narcissism.
It think maybe ya'll are responding with out checking out the content. I've been around for years, I know the lot of you well enough, I think you might want to check out whats actually going on.
You're right. I just came back to the forum to check out the Doyle comments. I have no idea who you are or what content you've been posting, and I definitely do not "want to check out whats actually going on" if that means reading your past posts. I just saw the statement you made in one post and that, along with the thinking that people are interested in reading your long and numerous posts, are real red flags for narcissism.
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05-24-2023 , 10:16 AM
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He would certainly spice things up a bit around here. How about mod for a day just to see what happens?
First he'd need to do 30 days of spambot post cleaning, before gaining any other abilities.
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06-04-2023 , 09:13 AM
Hi mods,

My thread about the future of streamed cash games was moved under Youtube and Twitch streams from NVG.

I have argumented in the thread why I think it should be in NVG. Waiting to hear your reply, thank you.
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06-05-2023 , 12:49 PM
Did you talk with mods in that forum?

I understand how that thread would certainly gain more traction in NVG. But if a thread about the future of streamed poker games isn't best suited for the streaming forum, which thread would be?
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06-06-2023 , 07:23 PM
Apologies for posting this here but if someone makes an out of line, personal libelous, insulting attack on another member in OOT, how can one go about reporting it and getting the offender at least temp banned?

This guys is a bit of a loon and needs a break.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4640
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06-06-2023 , 07:50 PM
You can report the post via the triangle icon.

Messaging mods of that sub forum is another option.
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