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11-13-2022 , 03:48 PM
I agree. At this point I accept the thread for what it is but it’s unsettling that a mod would allow the opposing side of the conversation to take place while deleting my tame comment
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11-13-2022 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
I agree. At this point I accept the thread for what it is but it’s unsettling that a mod would allow the opposing side of the conversation to take place while deleting my tame comment
Because nobody reported any of the other posts.
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11-13-2022 , 04:25 PM
I don’t really agree with the rationale. I’m just not going to post in the thread anymore and it can be the obvious echo chamber it wants to be

If something that mild was met with enough people reporting it to warrant a deletion then there’s no point. The post directly above mine was multitudes more inflammatory
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11-13-2022 , 04:36 PM
I didn’t see the other posts. I saw the flagged post and decided it warranted a deletion. After that I carried on with my Sunday. If you take issue with a post, please report it. That’s what others do.
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11-13-2022 , 04:40 PM
I didn't and I still don't but that's not where I see the issue here
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11-14-2022 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
Why was my post in the Ebony Kenney thread deleted?
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
I agree. At this point I accept the thread for what it is but it’s unsettling that a mod would allow the opposing side of the conversation to take place while deleting my tame comment
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
I don’t really agree with the rationale. I’m just not going to post in the thread anymore and it can be the obvious echo chamber it wants to be

If something that mild was met with enough people reporting it to warrant a deletion then there’s no point. The post directly above mine was multitudes more inflammatory
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I didn't and I still don't but that's not where I see the issue here
Please elucidate. Where do you see an issue?
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11-14-2022 , 02:44 PM
If that post (which is by all accounts mild) is deleted while the rest of that thread is allowed in its current state it is impossible to have a discussion with opposing viewpoints. All the angry posters will report my or similar posts and they’ll be deleted. I’m not reporting anyone else’s posts because I don’t see an issue with people voicing their opinions

I said “you are so woke” in response to a poster who directly above my post is insulting a guy over the course of a paragraph and has been for the course of the thread. Again, I have no issue with that, I have issue with my comment not being able to exist alongside it because people are reporting it and mods are deleting posts without reading the thread


On a basic level, how was my post deemed inappropriate within the context of the current discussion being allowed? How can my post be marked as inappropriate without being privy to prior discussion in the thread? Even just reading the quote my post was in direct response to it would seem an unbalanced action to delete my post and leave the quoted one

Last edited by Doorbread; 11-14-2022 at 02:50 PM.
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11-14-2022 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
I’m not reporting anyone else’s posts because I don’t see an issue with people voicing their opinions
If you don't see an issue with somebody stealing your wallet, nobody is forcing you to file a police report. That doesn't mean the police won't do something if somebody reports that you stole their wallet.

Posts get deleted if they violate the guidelines and a) somebody reports them or b) a mod randomly stumbles over them. Apparently none of those two happened regarding the posts in front of yours. I just took a look at the thread and realized it's beyond salvageable without deleting a bunch of posts.
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11-14-2022 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
If that post (which is by all accounts mild) is deleted while the rest of that thread is allowed in its current state it is impossible to have a discussion with opposing viewpoints. All the angry posters will report my or similar posts and they’ll be deleted.
FWIW, that was the only post report in that thread in the last 2 months, and it was by a poster that hasn't posted in it for a couple of months. So the good news is that while that poster might have been motivated by their own biases, it doesn't appear to be an angry poster getting back at you or wanting to silence you.

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I’m not reporting anyone else’s posts because I don’t see an issue with people voicing their opinions
And therein lies part of the problem. Not that I'm blaming you; I just mean that it can be difficult to make everyone happy when some people are good with a back-and-forth like that, while others are not.

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On a basic level, how was my post deemed inappropriate within the context of the current discussion being allowed? How can my post be marked as inappropriate without being privy to prior discussion in the thread? Even just reading the quote my post was in direct response to it would seem an unbalanced action to delete my post and leave the quoted one
I could see how a busy volunteer mod might see the first post report for that thread in two months, see a low content three word response to a much longer post, quickly delete the reported post, and move on. Not the way things are always done, but sometimes mods are busy and move quickly.

I don't think the back-and-forth there is necessarily problematic in the right thread, but it seems like a political derail of that thread to me, so I've reported the post that I think starts the tangent. Up to NVG mods if they agree; sometimes they decide to let stuff like that go depending on the thread.
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11-14-2022 , 05:14 PM
Doorbread,

No doubt you have read "NVG Rules and Guidelines (Please Read This Before Posting)", as the thread has been a basic rules sticky here for fourteen years. Within it is a post that includes:

"It's very very common for people to complain that mods are inconsistent. You're right. But, there's nothing nefarious behind this.

First of all, mods are unpaid and busy--There's lots of stuff that we could and should delete, but we don't because we don't see it or because we're just browsing the forums and not thinking like a moderator, etc. It sucks when your post was deleted and someone else's similar post wasn't, but that doesn't mean that your post shouldn't have been deleted or that mods are evil.

Second, there's some subjectivity here. Mods don't follow hard-and-fast rules, and we don't claim to. Sometimes we think something like "Well.. that post is pretty off-topic, but it seems like people will like it, so I'll leave it." Sorry if we don't feel this way about your post and therefore delete it."

Mods absolutely do not read every post in every thread, and we rely quite heavily upon the readers to report posts that they think should be edited or deleted. Every home forum mod and every Admin receives your report and, individually, makes their decision on their resultant action, very often on a stand-alone post basis.

The general system, on the whole, seems to have worked reasonably well over the years. However, if you believe there should be a fundamental overhaul, then that thread also invites you to start a relevant thread in About The Forums, where a thorough debate may be started.

If you neither want to report others' posts, nor start a thread in ATF, then I'm afraid you may have to accept that what you have seen is what you'll continue to get.
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11-15-2022 , 12:07 AM
well, ****. i guess that's the definition of "it is what it is".

fair enough though, for sure.
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12-28-2022 , 08:04 AM
why can't i say **************** since blackfriday?
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12-28-2022 , 08:05 AM
i will pass this phrase **************** to a trusted member of the community who will confirm its not allowed to be said here. and then we will ask the modership, why?
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12-28-2022 , 10:50 AM
Cute that you think NVG mods are responsible for that filter..

Maybe ask here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55/about-forums/
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12-28-2022 , 12:09 PM
You have my permission to evade the filter one time so we will know what ********************** is. (Note: my permission means absolutely nothing here. Evade at your own risk)
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12-28-2022 , 03:30 PM
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why can't i say **************** since blackfriday?
No idea, because we can't read it. Try putting in a space or a period. And I doubt it's related to "blackfriday".

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i will pass this phrase **************** to a trusted member of the community who will confirm its not allowed to be said here. and then we will ask the modership, why?
I, um, wait, what? We can all see that it's censored, and you've already asked the "modership" with your previous post.
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12-28-2022 , 04:41 PM
no im not evading a ban.

what phrases are banned here. obviously anti-semetic ****. but even more obviously anti-anyone race.

but why phrases like this:

****************

like how many phrases are banned. whats going on here? why is twitter ran by the fbi and deepstate? what doe sthis have to do with poker?

you give me a number o fhow many phrases are banned and ill tell you what poker players aren't allowed to mention on this site.
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12-28-2022 , 04:43 PM
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No idea, because we can't read it. Try putting in a space or a period. And I doubt it's related to "blackfriday".


I, um, wait, what? We can all see that it's censored, and you've already asked the "modership" with your previous post.
no. i could be makin git up. i could be just posting asterisks. how come ur dumb sometimes? why can't we say this phrase? whats going on?
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12-28-2022 , 06:10 PM
haven knowns. haven. what phrase did you tyrants ban unknowingly because the fbi was here.?
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12-28-2022 , 07:03 PM
Maybe it would be best if you posted in "your" thread and only there?
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12-28-2022 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
no im not evading a ban.

what phrases are banned here. obviously anti-semetic ****. but even more obviously anti-anyone race.

but why phrases like this:

****************

like how many phrases are banned. whats going on here? why is twitter ran by the fbi and deepstate? what doe sthis have to do with poker?

you give me a number o fhow many phrases are banned and ill tell you what poker players aren't allowed to mention on this site.
There are literally hundreds of words/phrases in our filter. I'd say at least 99% of them are because of spam - things like "caps aqq" "deserts afaritours" "my coine", but with the spaces removed. The other <1% are typically offensive phrases, slurs, etc.

Now, if you'd genuinely like to find out about a specific word/phrase that the above doesn't answer, LMK what it is by inserting a space or a period in the middle of it when you type it. If instead you want to continue to play games, then this will likely be the end of yet another account for you, because I really don't have the patience for your bullshit anymore.

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haven knowns. haven. what phrase did you tyrants ban unknowingly because the fbi was here.?
"haven" isn't able to add phrases to the filter - only admins can. Take your conspiracy nonsense to your containment thread.
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12-28-2022 , 09:14 PM
Sorry, I deleted your latest posts.

This thread is not your personal blog. Please take it elsewhere.
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01-11-2023 , 09:06 AM
Now I want to know what that **************** is
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01-20-2023 , 09:06 AM
Hello guys, I am New here, I cant open forum, but I need your help, I saw that here is most comments, so I will write here, situation is this, yesterday I played poker on party poker, and I was 10 of the 10,we Got 530 buy in ticket for the finale, I Got that thumbs up and there was written that will be avtomati ticket forward,but the game didnt seated me in the next game, also the game didnt give me ticket to my tickets, and in the right corner where you have the tournament I didn have nothing.. I have immedilaty wrote them but still no reply, yesterday two emails and today one email, no reply about that, that live chat of them dont work, and I also didnt get mail, where they congratulations send... Always Got that...and today about 2 hours ago I have found in the trnsaction history is written minus 490 dollars... But I didnt play, didnt seat... Didnt get the ticket.. I was all te Time at the Computer searching and looking what to do.. Where is ticket... So if is anybody here to help me, please...
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01-20-2023 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Edolindo
Hello guys, I am New here, I cant open forum, but I need your help, I saw that here is most comments, so I will write here, situation is this, yesterday I played poker on party poker, and I was 10 of the 10,we Got 530 buy in ticket for the finale, I Got that thumbs up and there was written that will be avtomati ticket forward,but the game didnt seated me in the next game, also the game didnt give me ticket to my tickets, and in the right corner where you have the tournament I didn have nothing.. I have immedilaty wrote them but still no reply, yesterday two emails and today one email, no reply about that, that live chat of them dont work, and I also didnt get mail, where they congratulations send... Always Got that...and today about 2 hours ago I have found in the trnsaction history is written minus 490 dollars... But I didnt play, didnt seat... Didnt get the ticket.. I was all te Time at the Computer searching and looking what to do.. Where is ticket... So if is anybody here to help me, please...
Maybe someone can help you over here:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...e-poker-sites/
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