Does anybody know about Winamax and Ipoker/Party/Micro? Are they planning to share the pool of France/Spain and/or other countries?

We know winamax are moving into Spain and Portugal as they signed Adrian Mateos and Joao Viera. As far as a timeline goes that's uncertain - winamax are extremely private as Hood as spoken about.

I think winamax got the agreement from the french regulator and they are waiting for the ok from the spanish one

Just to clarify - they've received a shared liquidity license in France, where they already hold an online gaming license. They are waiting to receive an online gaming license in Spain and Portugal. Specific shared liquidity licenses are not required in these countries.

The source was a person who told a friend of him. And that person didn't even had a clear writing, instead she used all kinds of abbreviations on that message... clearly the type of writing an official representative would have... so go figure why the Portuguese media didn't gave that story any highlight...

With Pokerstars being the only operator in Portugal at the moment I think it's safe to assume they are the first party interested in a fast process given that the games are pretty dead here. The problem is that they still need some kind of software certification from an external company from those few SRIJ admit as their partners. Last time a PokerStars representative spoke publicly on the matter he pointed towards sharing with Portugal after 2nd trimester of 2018. They should know better than anyone how much time this certification process will take on average so that schedule is still standing: after April 2018.

So everything is done slowly, good old Portuguese fashion way. Just live your life with no stress... and it's been like this since July 2015... so why worry now?

Does anyone know if Winamax will still allow none PIGS country players?
Will other rooms (Stars, iPoker, Party) start to allow them?

Why not just make a whole EU playerpool, I mean holy ****, those segregations are not only against the EU mentality but also against EU law, ****ing useless scum bureaucrats

Totally!

The Portuguese law, the one I can speak for is even completely opposite from what they are trying to implement now with this segregation. As I've said enough times on this thread and I'll keep reminding it, the Portuguese gambling law was passed by the last right wing government. The minister at the time said that the law, by not mentioning anything against the international liquidity, allowed it. And that was the intention the whole time because they knew the tiny Portuguese market need it to be competitive and attractive. I recall the minister being very involved within the community and replied to every message and they would always hit this point. He knew we need an open market in order to keep the games attractive and that was the only way to generate revenue in form of taxes. Then we finally had the law approved. GREAT! There was nothing there against any shared liquidity like the Spanish law had for instance. The Spanish law clearly stated that any market should be ring fenced.

Then, very few months after, there was a new government formed by 3 left wing parties that combined themselves to have a majority government. The new left wing prime minister said at the time he would strive for a monopoly by Santa Casa, a national institution that has the exclusive for lottery games. And he wasn't joking. Soon after SRIJ changed focus, completely ignored the (back then) new gambling law and invented some need for partnerships. It was made to favor a selected few good friends in land based casinos and other parties that had no interest in an attractive online market. There was lobbying against a strong online market.

Why is that 3 years ago the last right wing government needed a lot of time to have every word of the new legislation checked by EU. How is that you need months of verifications to see if everything is according to EU politics and after that you can just completely ignore what's in the law and force a closed market that is not mentioned anywhere in any document?

Should we be naive and think this is just incompetence? There's a lot of money involved in the industry...

TSG on the call today: Portugal still hopeful for Q2; prediction for Italy not until end of year or early 2019.

LOL

Portuguese regulator said to Pokerpt ( Poker news Portuguese site ) that the reason that games aren't running in the shared pool as of now is that PokerStars hasn't submitted a certificate proving that they've had their software reviewed by private certification companies.

Players in Portugal have had no word from PokerStars on what's going on regarding the shared pool. The regulators have provided that info I posted above, however, we are in the dark regarding where PokerStars is in the process an why this is taking all this time. We deserve an explanation of what is happening, and why the certification is taking extra The lack of communication is disrespectful to Portuguese customers. I'm requesting a PokerStars representative come in and update us as soon as possible.

The .PT ghost town clientèle is too much irrelevant for what you`re asking, Im afraid.

first of all, any amount of players is welcome in a pool that is already crippled. Further, it's not just about the amount of players Portugal would be adding to the pool, there's much more to it. Portugal joining right now is in everyone's interest. Since all this crap is against EU law already, we might as well hope for this shared market to be the start of a eu-wide pool. It has to start somewhere, and the longer it takes for the first countries to join, no matter how small, the less chance there is that all this is done before Poker is just another casino game.

PokerStars, being the number one site right now, hold some sort of responsibility to get this rolling. After all, any change is reason to increase rake again, right? So yeah, if it hasn't happened yet because of them, some sort of statement wouldn't be too much to ask for. It's not going to happen anyway, so why bother.

^ you got your rake wish haha they change it next week

that`s about what regs can expect from amaya, we do have long rapport.

where to read news about the new market/regulators?

for example, it seems the main event high will be re-entries, which i thought was banned considering the max buyin. must've been changed very recently?

Winamax just announced they closed my account permanently and my funds got auto withdraw because “in my country winamax doesnt have a license”.

Was it registered in Holland ?^^

His location is a town in Spain.

Yea it was registered a couple years ago in Holland, but i was allowede to play from spain because i still have a adress/bank account in Holland...but i figured this had something to do with Winamax leaving the countries that have not joined the new southern agreement...but maybe its just because of new regulation in Holland, and players fromROW are still allowed to play...
Anyway i just tried to open a new account with my Spanish details and current adresss but they wont allow real money player either..so im f’cked.

Dont post that **** in a public forum men..come on

Any word on when portugual are moving into the shared PP?
And can Portuguese players currently play Winamax and if not will they be allowed to once they merge into the shared PP?

No word dude, latest Stars prediction was the second trimester of the year, but there is a lot of people that still believe we are far from joining. No Winamax or Party yet as well. we just keep waiting :/

The so called french and spanish shared market is like ps.com. You can see players from all over the world at the tables.
Only the rake is higher.

When will be the markets implemented in PS.eu pool?

News update from The Stars Group First Quarter Earnings Presentation:
- Portugal is expected to join the pool this month;
- On the presentation speech was also said that Italy is not expected until early 2019;

(Source)