All of you comparing this situation to NIKE and the like are completely out of touch with the reality.

We are not talking about "employees" nobody would blame her for working as an employee.

Actively using your name to lure people to make deposits is more akin to someone selling stocks or "investment opportunity" to a company known to be soon bankrupt..

"Their mistreatment of customers is not breaking the law though was my point. "

this is just on another level

Can we get a list of Lock Poker Pros that actively promote the scam so we can tweet that they are dirtballs?

I already tried to explain this to you. Let's try again: Your random Nike employee isn't on twitter trying to get new customers for Nike. He isn't using his own name and reputation to get people to trust in his employer. He is just some random Joe working a regular job and nobody caring for him anyway.

That doesn't mean that he shouldn't quit his job if the company is doing something shady. If he has somewhat of a conscience then yes, he will quit.

You are comparing a LockPro with the cleaning lady who cleans the toilets at the Lock office every night. Both get checks from Lock and both have to come to terms with their conscience if working for a shady company is what they want their life to be about. But LockPros are directly responsible for customers losing money because they are using their own image, time and visibility within the poker community to get the customers depositing money in the first place. Nobody is going to sign up and deposit money because of the cleaning lady though.

Think about it .. you know that money on Lock is worthless, yet you continue to tweet and try to get new customers. You know that people will put their trust into Lock because they trust YOU. But you are not telling them that their money will disappear, basically making you a big part of the scam.

I doubt those numbers are accurate. Sounds more like 2005 numbers when money was just pouring into the poker economy. But even if it is only half of that then it's still a bunch of money .. and kind of explains why nobody cares about the reputation. Just tweet, wear a patch and get the same paychecks most people have to work for in a 9-5 job.

unless you start making your own clothing, eating your own organic food from your own farm, and making your own handicrafts, youre just as much of the problem as the people who work for these companies

That is a pointless response black666. Take any athlete that nike sponsors then. They of course know of the shady **** nike does/has done and yet continue to take money to promote them anyway.

mfg...yes true but an individual can still have a conscious thought and disagree and do the opposite besides the check no???????????

I think it's personally fine to call these athlete's out, and if enough people called them out publicly, maybe some things would change at nike.

Maybe u mw was a geeky nerdy grinder no one would be that bothered ( obv she prob wouldn't get pro deals tho either !) but cos she's attractive and fairly successful top level tourney player traveling the world ppl get jelly.

Yes the lock situation is ****ty but ppl knew that before playing there esp after bf?!?

Bf was 2 yrs ago and don't tell me ur surprised this has happened at lock now?!

If any USA player is crying foul about getting money off lock now it's been ****e for ages and so why is it her fault ur dumb for playing there?

Yes she promoted the site but only 5% allegedly poker players win therefore cash out , this 5% prob should've known better maybe?

This is a very fair discussion to be having, however, Melanie shouldn't be targeted more or less than any of the other Lock Pros.

For example, Michael Mizrachi is off shilling for ISPT, and sporting the Lock Patch, and he and his bro have been relentless on twitter over the past months trying to get new players.

I think the Nike analogy is a bit far fetched. That being said, these pros do have a responsibility not just out of taking money from this site, but of being members of this community (whether they read 2p2 or not, we are still poker players and we are all part of the same "Commons").

When you support, and directly profit, from a site that is basically stealing player funds, causing massive problems with p2p transfers/trading rates on 2p2 (let alone withdrawals from p2p which they have banned completely), you are hurting the collective.

I think the thread title should be changed, and to list Michael Mizrachi and the other head Lock "Pros" as well.

+1

OP, if you are going to call someone out publicly, at least have the diligence to spell their name correctly or fix typos in the thread title if you want to be taken seriously.

I just offered to buy 10% if she would accept payment on Lock.

Fwiw, Melanie is saying that she will respond (according to Twitter)-

Melanie Weisner ‏@melanieweisner 37m
@ToddWitteles I understand why people are upset, & for the third time, I will be addressing it. Once again, it doesn't belong on mktplace.
11:53 AM - 3 May 13 · Details

As far as targeting is concerned, that's ok. Especially in NVG. I'm happy to be the person to respond, and will in a few minutes, in a new thread where my name isn't misspelled.

I thought poker players were smart people,how could you not have seen this coming from Lock?

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me two, three and four times it's on you.

I would think that when a "PRO" like Melanie Weisner, who is sponsored/works for Lock but won't accept payment on Lock that that would throw up huge red flags.

Are you serious?

Every tried using a phone to type up a message of that size?

Take the grammar police attitude elsewhere.

i don't think anyone would think Melanie is being a contriving super villain by any stretch...so its just matter of publicly endorsing now or discontinuing...and send in the cleaners

Regarding this, payment taken is the same payment paid out, in almost every marketplace situation. That's why I didn't want to accept it (or any other method besides cash or stars), because I don't get winnings paid out on lock from EPTs (you get stars or cash) and it's difficult to pay out winnings in a method you don't receive them in. However, since you're so enthusiastic, I'll make a special exception for you. Go ahead and ship on lock, and i'll make sure I find a way to get winnings to you back there.

She absolutely isn't and that's why I mentioned in the OP that until now her reputation has been spotless in the community.

Continuing to work for Lock though will see that change especially when it goes bust and that goes for all the Lock pros.

i guess exploiting her fans and trying to get rec casual players to deposit on a site like lock doesn't bother her. but if you do that why should she get upset when they complain. i mean if you get paid to lure in players and they get screwed out of there funds why would she get upset when they complain to her shes getting the checks for that reason. so its ok to rep a site but when they don't pay she walks away and we stay quiet ok seems fair.

If you accept a transfer on Lock you wont be able to cash it out EVER, unless you have special arrangement with Lock.

Let's assume lock is legit.

How feasible is it to use a site for marketplace transactions that takes months to get money off?

You do know that lock isn't letting people cash out transferred funds correct? Are you exempt from this?

i am out..just say lock is solid as a rock or about to die