Shane said it was a mistake but here we are over a week later and Lock support, security, and live chat, etc. are all standing firm that no transfers can ever be cashed out.

Given the uproar over this, and the fact Lock had to pull their ads down because of this, shouldn't it be extremely simple to just come out and state a 1:1 policy?

Why can't Lock do this?

I don't have money on Lock but I think the 2 things that can and should be easily answered are

-why are ROW cashouts taking forever
-a firm stance on p2p transfer accounts not being allowed to withdraw funds. Unfortunately it seems like Lock is planning on tying basically every account on the site to the ones they claim were acting against the T&C's in terms of buying tons of Lock money at discount only to w/d them later.

Hello all. As someone who was referred to Lock by Duralast, thought I would chime in.

Jeff was very transparent about Lock sucking at cashouts, and this was over a year ago.

I'm not a great online player, so the first time I was able to cash out ($1,900) was in Nov '12. I honestly thought it would get here in 2 months... but it ended up taking 6 months. I just got my check a few weeks ago.

The whole time I was ranting and raving to Jeff about how there is no way I was getting paid. I exchanged 100 emails with Lock staff, each time they were telling me a random reason it was delayed. The money has nothing to do with it. I have a full-time job and get a nice paycheck every 2 weeks. I make my money selling advertising, which is probably no better than taking it from dumb college kids or dentists or whoever the good poker players are swindling these days.

It's funny to see those of you guys troll Jeff as though he is the one holding up your cashouts. Even funnier those of you asking him to be a martyr. Obviously Jeff and all of the other pros are freaking out. He has more money on that site than most of you. Much more to lose.

Lock sucks. But donking Jeff over the head with threats of how he's going to lose credibility is dumb. He's obviously trying to help, but his full-time job is not Lock support. That's Lock's job.

EDIT: The reason I mention I'm not a great player is to show an objective viewpoint from someone who isn't risking his nuts on a cashout. Feels like lots of you have anger being funneled at pros, doesn't sound right. You'd all have taken the job.

^^^

lol

how about getting proof this isn't a ponzi scam first

It may not be your policy but reps and the higher ups know about these email responses yet they still give them. They still do not have details yet other then I assume make it up as they go along . Nice company to rep , you cant even get a straight answer . I take it all cash outs have stopped for every one atm haven't seen a cash out post in awhile from anyone. Are they waiting 3 weeks before they send another batch.

Originally Posted by Callisto 5 View Post

Lock Representation
Why do the pros represent Lock? Why do we continue to be ambassadors for a site that is causing so many problems for the poker community with the cashout delays and rumors of insolvency? The implication is that we're just using our names and brands in order to selfishly promote, and take a paycheck from, a site that is screwing over their players.


But the truth is, jumping ship, breaking contract, and leaving Lock would accomplish absolutely nothing except dissolving important channels that the site has to the community, which are damned important channels to maintain in order for any of these problems to be rectified.[/B]
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What a crock of S. Right now by representing Lock you are actively trying to recruit players to a site that doesn't pay it's players. Speaking of not paying players.....I hear you owe a few that have been waiting and waiting and waiting to be paid. From the messages I've been receiving you're word on payment is slightly better than EDog's and Chino's. On second thought, maybe you are the perfect representative for Lock?

Lol, why do none of Lock's pros understand there is no legitimate business reason whatsoever to deny an independent, arbitrary verification of the segregation of player funds from operational funds?

hi shane

You should have just kept your trap shut. You are beyond clueless about the situation.

STOP BLAMING LOCK

Blame yourself.

Lock is a business that knows that when they attract compulsive gamblers they don't need swift cashouts or even a sustainable marketplace over time to make a large amount of money and escape into the dark; which is what will happen.

Lock is still generating desent volume with basically zero US withdrawal options. Yet you guys still deposit and cry later. The site know this will happen. As far as holding the company responsible, they can simply get away with it with confidentiality.

@BustMeANut: That's strange. I know Jeff one million times better than you.

EDIT: Also, I've read all of the threads AND gone through the cashout process. What exactly am I missing?

I'm pretty sure there are at most 500 people on Lock right now. And it's Sunday.

Most probably either Lockbots or people that have given up on receiving their cash and just decided to splash around with what is effectively play money.

The other thousands of people that are shown as "Online now" on Lock? On a different Revolution skin or just made up.


So, no. They're not still making money.

There are quite a lot of people speaking out on this that have no money on Lock. I am one of them. Its also not just a matter of blame. Its not as if when bad things happen that there are 100 parts blame to be distributed among the parties involved and that's all there is to it.

Not putting much time into researching companies that you deposit your own money onto is a bad idea, but there's nothing scummy about that. Persuading other people to put their money onto a site that you either know is insolvent or that you didn't put much time into researching is scummy. See the difference?

How about for one thing you don't care if Lock pays it's players. You don't care about your minimal few dollars you have on the site. You don't care if others get ripped off. You only care about yourself. You're a selfish dweeb that I'm sure didn't care about Madoff ripping off people, Tyco shareholders getting bankrupted and some old lady getting mugged in Omaha, Nebraska. You only care about yourself. No wonder you're friends with people like Jeff.

how would you recommend lock , how has your experience went. would you sign up players and be paid sending players knowing they may or may not get paid in 6 months.

https://twitter.com/melanieweisner/s...02665641312256

mbn partying in monaco while your company is dying

In your post you claim that Lock customers are trolling your friend and blaming him for holding up withdrawals. Nobody is claiming this. Second, there is nobody on here claiming your friend is going on a recruiting rampage and getting people to deposit without telling them how bad cashout issues are. So basically you are missing the entire point of the 2p2 community calling out Lock pros.

Yes they are still making money, yet not as much as before.

But the reality here is that they have made a ton of money in the past knowing that they may have uncontrollable cashout issues with the DOJ blocking everything and would still dive head first in the US knwing that a lot of people simply just don't give a damn

You're joking right? Why would I ever recommend a site like Lock where it takes 6 months, vs. Bovada where I get paid every 2 weeks.

My point had 0 to do with Lock. Lock sucks. I told Jeff I think Lock sucks.

I'm saying Jeff is a good kid who wants to help, because I know him. And if I know one pro, good chance MANY of them are also good kids that want to help.

And to the Kenny bro dog: That's not what I said at all. But just because you said that I hope your cashout comes last.

I don't think you realize that they have to be making way above w/e pre-existing profit margin they had to compensate for payment processing issues, overlay in tournaments caused by lack of players, declining traffic, and all of Lock's other expenses (partying it up in Portugal, paying broke pros who think a few k is worth dirtying your name for etc.)

and all of that is assuming they are segregated lol, phantom deposit situation could very well be going on

I'm sure they're still making money/revenue. It's pretty much a mathematics impossibility for them to still be (legitimately) profitable, though, IMO.

Okay cool that you are defending your friend, w/e, but don't defend the other pieces of **** scum that went off and partied in portugal with our money and had the gall to post pictures/videos of it on instagram, vine and twitter

That's my point! With how scummy lock as proven to be, there is too much emphasis on "we need answers" or "why wont someone respond" or "where actually is my money." Lock is here to keep quiet and generate as much money as possible before they have to leave and dive into other endeavors. ANd lock knows that gamblers can be strung along for a VERY long time if not forever before making changes.

+1 and it's all so obv I have no clue how people can argue with you.