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Isildur1 will not make it out of November before going busto 142 8.29%
Will not see year 2010 before going busto 376 21.95%
Will go busto early in year 2010 189 11.03%
Will not go busto for a very long time 182 10.62%
Isildur1 will not go busto, period ! 348 20.32%
Who is Idildur1 189 11.03%
I could give a rat's arse if Isildur1 goes busto or not ! 287 16.75%
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:52 PM   #176
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Basically, He isnt. lol. But isnt the swedish tax law totally stupid? Like its 30% on every pot won? I guess it just means if he loses it all THEN the taxman wont find out.
Considering he only wins slightly more than he loses, it means with the amount of hands they are grossing he actually by now owes the swedish IRS millions of dollars already due to the insane amount of chips they are throwing back and forth
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:53 PM   #177
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Basically, He isnt. lol. But isnt the swedish tax law totally stupid? Like its 30% on every pot won? I guess it just means if he loses it all THEN the taxman wont find out.
Correct.. The law is really ****ed up.. There is no possible way to follow it and if Isildur needs to, he will be broke and in dept..

The law says that you need to pay 30% from every pot you win no matter how much you lose. So basically you can lose 10bi and owe the government 100bi more.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:55 PM   #178
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As far as all the cheating conspiracies go, I won;t say its not possible, but aside from a handful of hands he made sick calls on, what evidance is there. Having your opponents allways call supre light, or push marginal draws to which you can feel confident caling relatively light is not cheating. It's just you playing an agro game to which they adjust in the wrong way... as I have yet to read any advice from any pro that says when you run into a super agro oppoenet just losen up your game.

Also it was on this forum that I came across a thread about a guy that ran up $600 to about 100k in a coupel of weeks and actually posted some HH when he played pros before droping a couple of buyins and cashing out the profit. Main difference seems to be that this guy started out at that level, but isn't running that hot in terms of BB/100.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:55 PM   #179
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Basically, He isnt. lol. But isnt the swedish tax law totally stupid? Like its 30% on every pot won? I guess it just means if he loses it all and didnt withdraw THEN the taxman wont find out.
So he moves countries, there's a few countries in Europe he can live and pay nothing on poker winnings. I'm sure Sweden is a lovely country but is it worth paying couple of Million a year to live there?
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:57 PM   #180
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:58 PM   #181
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So he moves countries, there's a few countries in Europe he can live and pay nothing on poker winnings. I'm sure Sweden is a lovely country but is it worth paying couple of Million a year to live there?
Thing is, it's only on FTP and some other few sites this law applies on, so for pretty much everyone else than 500/1k regs can safely find action elsewere
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:58 PM   #182
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Please Stop. Its not even a laughable anymore...its just annoying.

Stu Ungar was a tilt monkey in cash games. He won those tournaments, because no one knew how to effectively combat his style THEN.

He was brilliant, but he'd get eaten alive in today's games by a majority of the big players....and thats only if he didn't wind up snorting his roll beforehand.
He had an iq of over 180 anybody that intelligent combined with stues creativity could crush these games after 4+ years of grinding, given that they werent on coke.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:58 PM   #183
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He had an iq of over 180 anybody that intelligent combined with stues creativity could crush these games after 4+ years of grinding, given that they werent on coke.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:59 PM   #184
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But playing Ivey, Lederer and Ferguson on FT would be ok, you mean?
I played on FTP in the past, ran good, ran bad - never had any doubts about their system, so obv. why should i have doubts when i would play these guys.

Seeing what happend in the last 2 weeks made me doubt their system.

See, the point is, if you play 100 or 400NL - you dont have to fear that somebody tries to hack the system and cheat you out of money, since the effort to do this, isnt worth the result - since sooner or later you will get spotted by FT, you havent made enough to justify the action you took.

This whole perspective changes if you move up the stakes where you can make millions with a couple of 10k hands - it makes it way harder for FT to spot foul play (you can always blame it on a good run - just look around the forum how many people never even think about foul play - thats just ignorant) and gives any effort to hack the system a way bigger reward at the end if successful.

So to answer your question - it would have been okay in the past - since the guys you mentioned where public faces you could confront and i didnt had any doubts at the system - but after that - NO WAY.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:59 PM   #185
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It was only a matter of time before one of the more skilled players at the lower stakes came to the nosebleeds to wipe the floor with the nosebleeds players. All have them have massive leaks and he's probably studied all of them extensively the last year or two.

Imagine having 2 years worth of datamined hands and knowing what to do in every possible scenario vs these players to exploit them ridiculously. Durrr has been completely helpless and has been embarassed like a school child that can't figure out how to adapt. Shoving bottom pair for 100bb on flops is not how you adapt.
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:06 PM   #186
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Re: **** November High Stakes Thread ****

Who would win between.........................

Isidur1 on one computer

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durrrr, PA, Ivey, Ziig and sbrugby all at another computer playing on one account?
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:23 PM   #187
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10mil month for isildur..he s up 7 now

i can see it coming

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Old 11-15-2009, 08:28 PM   #188
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Re: **** November High Stakes Thread ****

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Who would win between.........................

Isidur1 on one computer

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durrrr, PA, Ivey, Ziig and sbrugby all at another computer playing on one account?
def isildur. shared computer < one of those players alone
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:31 PM   #189
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my thoughts, with no follow-up.....
-if your computer is compromised (b/c someone has set up cameras in your place, b/c someone has broken into your house and installed spyware directly on your computer, b/c someone has installed spyware by breaching your computer's network security), you can be cheated, and there is nothing full tilt or any other site can do about it.
-it's unlikely isidur is cheating, as he's playing every high stakes player. all these players have good security. the players themselves don't think they are being cheated. if he's cheating, at minimum we can say he's very very good at it.
-guessing tom's finances is a fool's game. he has more investments/deals/accts/arrangements/etc than anyone could guess. i cannot imagine a 23 yr old with a more complicated financial life. he's extremely well off. that said, he's the biggest gambler of his generation (as ivey is the biggest of his) and he could go bust in a short time.

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Old 11-15-2009, 08:32 PM   #190
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yeah I think the players playing alone are better than in a group coz there would be too much confusion and then then the one playing might not wanna mess up and look like a donk infront of his buddies
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:53 PM   #191
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It's "couldn't care less".
wtf 90% of ppl do that mistake here, it tilts me
I could care less, but not much.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:01 PM   #192
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In his Swedish blog Swedish Pro Jonas "Nebuchad" Danielsson talks about Isildur1.

" Im as much Isildur as i am Usain Bolt. Thats about the same differens in speed as in poker knowledge. For the moment im just playing 2-4 PLO trying to learn the game. Its only two people who can be Isildur. Anyway in my opinion Isildur is the best HU player in the world. He is 100 on a scale from 1-100 . Durrr is 90 and the rest is below 50.

After about 1 hour railing Isildur I thought he was amazing, and after 3 days its confirmed. poker companys will have to fight hard for him, NO they will have to go to war for get him to sign for them (if he decids to come forward). However, he will become the greatest. Greater than anybody else in all time (in poker).

In this fantastisc matchup I have seen durrrr change his game and strategy many times, but Isildur has handle it very well. Durrrr will probably not surrender whitout a really hard fight. Emperer that he is (at least fore a while) he should take a old custom in place, having a slave next to him wisperring in his ear "you are mortal". Isildur is unmortal as long as he has the ring on his finger and then it will be very hard fore Durrr to win. Durrrr acctualy look like a hobbit.

question remains if Durrrr is willing to sacrify his life in the battle or if he finally will surrender. I have seen many talanted players gone crayzy fore many reasons, take Lodden fore example who was the greatest player in his time.

In teh comments it says that the 2 people that he means can be Isildur is Blom90 or gulkines.
why hasn't anyone discussed this, am I the only one that got owned into thinking this was real?
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:06 PM   #193
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Here is Nebuchad's OP, I can't understand a word, but it seems to translate, how much cred can we give this fool?

Isildur

Jag är isildur lika mycket som om jag är Usuain Bolt. Det är ungefär samma glapp i snabbhet som i pokerskicklighet. Just nu ströspelar jag 2-4 PLO för att lära mig spelet. Det är bara två personer det kan stå emellan. Hur som helst så är Isildur världens överlägset bästa HU-spelare i världen. Han är 100 på en skala 1-100. Durrrr är 90 och resten ligger under 50.

Ungefär efter jag sett Isildur spela en timma så misstänkte jag hur ruggig han var och efter att ha sett tre dagars lir så är det bekräftat. Spelbolagen kommer få slåss, nej de kommer starta krig för att få hans signatur (förutsatt att han skulle vilja stiga fram i ljuset). Oavsett så kommer han bli hur stor som helst. Större än någon annan tidigare (inom poker).

Så alla bittra "motriggade" pokerspelare (och svenskar i övrigt kanske?) runt om i sverige kan bara hoppas att han är väldigt ful eller har extremt liten kuk, annars kommer landets gränser svälla över av avundsjuka och sprida sig likt en pandemi. Hellre svininfluensa säger jag själv!


Edit: I deras episka matcher har jag sett Durrrr ändra spelstil och strategi men Isildur har tacklat detta bra. Väldigt bra. Det är bara en typ av spelare som jag kan se hota honom men med en sådan gudomlig talang så kan han säkert övervinna denna också om han skulle stöta på den. Durrrr kommer förmodligen inte abdikera utan en rejäl strid. Kjesare som han är (i ett tag till i alla fall) så skulle han behöva ta efter deras gamla sed om att ha en slav stående intill sig som viskar: "Du är dödlig". Isildur är ju odödlig så länge han har ringen på sig enligt sagan och då blir det svårt för Durrrr att vinna. Durrrr är ju faktiskt lik en hobbit.

Frågan kvarstår om Durrrr kommer offra sitt liv i striden eller om han kommer ge sig till slut. Jag har sett många talangfulla spelare bli knäckta av olika anledningar, ta Lodden, som var den ruggigaste spelaren en tid, som exempel.
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FWIW, I think it has to be Blom90, the only thing I am curious about is I have never heard much of Blom playing PLO, has he always played HUPLO on Prima?
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:09 PM   #195
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why hasn't anyone discussed this, am I the only one that got owned into thinking this was real?
It is real and translation is accurate. (pretty much)
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:10 PM   #196
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FWIW, I think it has to be Blom90, the only thing I am curious about is I have never heard much of Blom playing PLO, has he always played HUPLO on Prima?
Blom played the equivalent of 25/50 HU PLO on svenskaspel about ten months ago and absolutely and utterly crushed it (as in sitting on 1000bb+ stacks some times)
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Here is Nebuchad's OP, I can't understand a word, but it seems to translate, how much cred can we give this fool?

Isildur

Jag är isildur lika mycket som om jag är Usuain Bolt. Det är ungefär samma glapp i snabbhet som i pokerskicklighet. Just nu ströspelar jag 2-4 PLO för att lära mig spelet. Det är bara två personer det kan stå emellan. Hur som helst så är Isildur världens överlägset bästa HU-spelare i världen. Han är 100 på en skala 1-100. Durrrr är 90 och resten ligger under 50.

Ungefär efter jag sett Isildur spela en timma så misstänkte jag hur ruggig han var och efter att ha sett tre dagars lir så är det bekräftat. Spelbolagen kommer få slåss, nej de kommer starta krig för att få hans signatur (förutsatt att han skulle vilja stiga fram i ljuset). Oavsett så kommer han bli hur stor som helst. Större än någon annan tidigare (inom poker).

Så alla bittra "motriggade" pokerspelare (och svenskar i övrigt kanske?) runt om i sverige kan bara hoppas att han är väldigt ful eller har extremt liten kuk, annars kommer landets gränser svälla över av avundsjuka och sprida sig likt en pandemi. Hellre svininfluensa säger jag själv!


Edit: I deras episka matcher har jag sett Durrrr ändra spelstil och strategi men Isildur har tacklat detta bra. Väldigt bra. Det är bara en typ av spelare som jag kan se hota honom men med en sådan gudomlig talang så kan han säkert övervinna denna också om han skulle stöta på den. Durrrr kommer förmodligen inte abdikera utan en rejäl strid. Kjesare som han är (i ett tag till i alla fall) så skulle han behöva ta efter deras gamla sed om att ha en slav stående intill sig som viskar: "Du är dödlig". Isildur är ju odödlig så länge han har ringen på sig enligt sagan och då blir det svårt för Durrrr att vinna. Durrrr är ju faktiskt lik en hobbit.

Frågan kvarstår om Durrrr kommer offra sitt liv i striden eller om han kommer ge sig till slut. Jag har sett många talangfulla spelare bli knäckta av olika anledningar, ta Lodden, som var den ruggigaste spelaren en tid, som exempel.
<pretty good source imo, hes a well-known swedish highstake player, who have won sick amounts online (2-3million) and got good contacts in the swedish pokercommunity
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:15 PM   #198
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Anyone know what this means?

kan inte bryce komma o krossa durrrr på fixed oxå.

Something about bryce crushing durrrr?
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Anyone know what this means?

kan inte bryce komma o krossa durrrr på fixed oxå.

Something about bryce crushing durrrr?
can't bryce come and crush durrrr in fixed aswell.
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Isildur1=Blom90
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