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Isildur1 will not make it out of November before going busto 142 8.29%
Will not see year 2010 before going busto 376 21.95%
Will go busto early in year 2010 189 11.03%
Will not go busto for a very long time 182 10.62%
Isildur1 will not go busto, period ! 348 20.32%
Who is Idildur1 189 11.03%
I could give a rat's arse if Isildur1 goes busto or not ! 287 16.75%
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:41 PM   #926
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I'll miss you at first...
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:57 PM   #927
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Is it confirmed Busto for Izzy ?

Isildur1 confirmed lost over $5 Million in less than a week .

http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles.../Isildur1.aspx



Hasn't been seen online in 48 hours plus ?

For a degenerate who sucked at Omaha,
I think that means confirmed busto ?

Isildur1 had to be the worst PLO player I have ever watched.

I personally have played tougher opponents on one cent, two cent tables, and I am not joking.

If Isildur1 is smart, which he obviously isn't, he will go back to
the euro poker room whence he came from, and never venture back to FTP where the big boyzs play .

as Mike Matusow proclaimed,
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"the kiddie game is down the street"

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Old 12-05-2009, 10:10 PM   #928
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Is it confirmed Busto for Izzy ?

Isildur1 confirmed lost over $5 Million in less than a week .

http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles.../Isildur1.aspx



Hasn't been seen online in 48 hours plus ?

For a degenerate who sucked at Omaha,
I think that means confirmed busto ?

Isildur1 had to be the worst PLO player I have ever watched.

I personally have played tougher opponents on one cent, two cent tables, and I am not joking.

If Isildur1 is smart, which he obviously isn't, he will go back to
the euro poker room whence he came from, and never venture back to FTP where the big boyzs play .

as Mike Matusow proclaimed,


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Or he comes back to FTP and only plays hold em.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:18 PM   #929
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The link below is a nice read

and shows who was the benficiary of Isildur1's largesse

http://www.highstakesdb.com/1350-isi...-a-5m-hit.aspx

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Old 12-05-2009, 10:21 PM   #930
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highstakesfan, you don't know what you're talking about. He is very good at PLO but that doesn't necessarily mean he has an edge on PA, Ivey, Townsend and Ziigmund who are some of the best in the world, losing to them doesn't mean he's a bad player.
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highstakesfan, you don't know what you're talking about. He is very good at PLO but that doesn't necessarily mean he has an edge on PA, Ivey, Townsend and Ziigmund who are some of the best in the world, losing to them doesn't mean he's a bad player.
Isildur1 sucks, he could not regularly beat a NVGtard at PLO.

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Old 12-05-2009, 10:28 PM   #932
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Isildur1 sucks, he could not regularly beat a NVGtard at PLO.

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If he was anywhere near as bad as you think and played as many hands as he did against such great players, he would be down about $50m.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:50 PM   #933
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If he was anywhere near as bad as you think and played as many hands as he did against such great players, he would be down about $50m.
So 5M+ lost in a couple of day is not enough evidence for you?

I watched him play PLO for longer than I want to admit and there were a number of times that I concluded that he either did not know how to play or was just not paying attention.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:02 PM   #934
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So 5M+ lost in a couple of day is not enough evidence for you?

I watched him play PLO for longer than I want to admit and there were a number of times that I concluded that he either did not know how to play or was just not paying attention.
and Durrrr doing similar would mean he is a bad at player?

I agree though that Isildur1 should have just stick to nl
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:02 PM   #935
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So 5M+ lost in a couple of day is not enough evidence for you?

I watched him play PLO for longer than I want to admit and there were a number of times that I concluded that he either did not know how to play or was just not paying attention.
yep, its just so easy to get in spew mode at PLO HU. like in a 4bet pot "oh I has a pair wit some backdoors. enough equity to get it in", which is correct from a game theoretical standpoint, but often these situation are unnecessary
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:02 PM   #936
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So 5M+ lost in a couple of day is not enough evidence for you?

I watched him play PLO for longer than I want to admit and there were a number of times that I concluded that he either did not know how to play or was just not paying attention.
So Durrrr losing like 5 mil to isil in 1-2 days at NLHE means that durrr is possibly the worst player going.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:08 PM   #937
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So Durrrr losing like 5 mil to isil in 1-2 days at NLHE means that durrr is possibly the worst player going.
Yes, in that situation, he was terrible. By that I mean he continued to play a style (allin bluffs after the river, big bets on gutshot draws et cetera) that was demonstrating itself to be terrible against an opponent who appeared to have less regard for money than he did. Is three betting 104s and then going allin after the flop with only the bottom end of a str8 draw what a good player would do? Maybe (a small maybe....) but not against an opponent that has shown he will call those 500G allin bets with only a bottom pair.

You can nut-hug Durr all you want, but it does not change what happened. He did not lose his 5M+ to Islidur because he was unlucky, it was largely because he played very poorly by any measure you want to use. At least he was smart enough to change his style of late...
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:21 PM   #938
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Isildur1 sucks, he could not regularly beat a NVGtard at PLO.

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you are so fk ing stupid it boggles the mind.... i hope that you are leveling... and if not the second best thing would be sterile
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:29 PM   #939
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So 5M+ lost in a couple of day is not enough evidence for you?

I watched him play PLO for longer than I want to admit and there were a number of times that I concluded that he either did not know how to play or was just not paying attention.
No of course it is not enough evidence. He wins or loses 20 or 30 buyins every other session, $5m really isn't that much when you're playing $1.3m pots. Maybe you should consider another option, that you don't know how to play or weren't paying attention.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:32 PM   #940
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$5m is still 50 buyins at the stakes they were playing. variance is variance but dont act like dwan played great to lose 50 buyins
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:17 AM   #941
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I think the real problems with Isi are:

(First of all he´s very young and talented and has tremendous courage)

1. He doesn´t understand game selection at all.
2. He plays anyone, anytime, at the same time, too many tables for this level.
3. He plays marathon sessions, doesn´t sleep enough, probably eats garbage and doesn´t use shower too much.
4. He doesn´t have a real social network, not too many friends.
5. Doesn´t get laid nor loved by a woman.
6. He´s too kind to play PLO when he should insist to play only HE because he´s the young underrolled challenger.
7. He doesn´t think str8 at all times.

And he doesn´t understand the value of real money at all. It´s all a computer game to him.

But Isildur1 can already be compared to Andy Beal IMO.

And he will be back. Like Andy did.
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One more thing:

The way he always wants to play more tables than others tells that he really is an action freak and gets bored too easily.

A real internet-age degen, playstation kid.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:11 AM   #943
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Yes, in that situation, he was terrible. By that I mean he continued to play a style (allin bluffs after the river, big bets on gutshot draws et cetera) that was demonstrating itself to be terrible against an opponent who appeared to have less regard for money than he did. Is three betting 104s and then going allin after the flop with only the bottom end of a str8 draw what a good player would do? Maybe (a small maybe....) but not against an opponent that has shown he will call those 500G allin bets with only a bottom pair.

You can nut-hug Durr all you want, but it does not change what happened. He did not lose his 5M+ to Islidur because he was unlucky, it was largely because he played very poorly by any measure you want to use. At least he was smart enough to change his style of late...
god i hate it when stupid NVGtards try to analyze high stakes play.. u just prove yourself a moron.. please do not even try to analyse any of these games becauses you level of thought is so far below those who play these games it is unfathamoble.. of course in whatever bull**** games you play barreling with gutshots or bluffing calling stations is not the optimal style of play... doesnt it occur to you that these players are where they are because they have risen through the ranks and understand the feel and intricacies of NLHE/PLO; i dare say ( i may be wrong here) that they may know poker perhaps a little better than you, maybe just a bit.

In other words:

GTFO
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:24 AM   #944
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I dont think anyone can not understand the value of 5million dollars. Kid is sick.
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Old 12-06-2009, 02:34 AM   #945
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Yes, in that situation, he was terrible. By that I mean he continued to play a style (allin bluffs after the river, big bets on gutshot draws et cetera) that was demonstrating itself to be terrible against an opponent who appeared to have less regard for money than he did. Is three betting 104s and then going allin after the flop with only the bottom end of a str8 draw what a good player would do? Maybe (a small maybe....) but not against an opponent that has shown he will call those 500G allin bets with only a bottom pair.

You can nut-hug Durr all you want, but it does not change what happened. He did not lose his 5M+ to Islidur because he was unlucky, it was largely because he played very poorly by any measure you want to use. At least he was smart enough to change his style of late...

this tilts me to no end
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:08 AM   #946
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Good luck Isil hope to see soon
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:13 AM   #947
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Isil best example of degen.

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Old 12-06-2009, 10:09 AM   #948
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ya, it's fun when ppl are talking about durrrr being overly aggressive, bluffing to much and shoving on gutshots all over the place when in fact he was forced/made the passive one in their play according to stoxpoker's analysis-breakdown of 8k of the hands they played. Just over that sample Isi took down over 1m$ in non-showdown profit just by having a more balanced postflop play due to being the one in agressive-momentum(**** my english, hard to put the words right), but like durrr called way more 3bets than isi, but gave up almost twice as much as he did postflop in 3bet pots and so on.

It was very interesting, and I more and likely butchered that analysis with this comment now but saying that durrrr was a spewmonkey that was blowing away money is just wrong. He was way to passive and bled money and just was out of sync with his bluffing range or something.

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Old 12-06-2009, 10:45 AM   #949
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ya, it's fun when ppl are talking about durrrr being overly aggressive, bluffing to much and shoving on gutshots all over the place when in fact he was forced/made the passive one in their play according to stoxpoker's analysis-breakdown of 8k of the hands they played. Just over that sample Isi took down over 1m$ in non-showdown profit just by having a more balanced postflop play due to being the one in agressive-momentum(**** my english, hard to put the words right), but like durrr called way more 3bets than isi, but gave up almost twice as much as he did postflop in 3bet pots and so on.

It was very interesting, and I more and likely butchered that analysis with this comment now but saying that durrrr was a spewmonkey that was blowing away money is just wrong. He was way to passive and bled money and just was out of sync with his bluffing range or something.

--------- BUTCHER ME !
I think this was a cool post, but I don't think you can say durrrr was out of sync with his bluffing range (I'm assuming you mean his bluffing range was unbalanced?). He was likely playing very well and bluffing well etc but was just outplayed and soulread by isildur (if isildur did have an edge which I view as likely). Also I think 'way too passive' would not be a good term to describe because durrrr was likely still very aggressive, but I'd guess that was a language fault.

Also looking back on your post, I think it's wrong to say isildur was more balanced just because he was more aggressive or had the momentum, would have to think about that a little bit though. I guess in most matches between good players the winning player will be more balanced (?) but it won't be a direct result of being the more aggressive player.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:52 AM   #950
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tbh when i was watching durrrr vs isildur i thought they both played well but isildur ran better than usain bolt.

If tom had a AQ isi had AK
If tom had a boat isi had a higher boat.

Thats how the games went.
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