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Official FTP Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 26, 2012) Official FTP Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 26, 2012)

10-17-2012 , 07:14 AM
I started playing after black friday. Was really excited when I heard that FTP would reopen and I wanted to create an account and start playing there.

But I don't think I will play there once I heard of the new rackback system... I think FPT should have left the rackback as it was for at least 1 year until they got things running and had a decent volume... It's a shame that they are giving less rackback back to players.
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10-17-2012 , 08:08 AM
rackback sounds painful
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10-17-2012 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by danuuutz
I started playing after black friday. Was really excited when I heard that FTP would reopen and I wanted to create an account and start playing there.
multiaccounting ITT
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10-17-2012 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by alexuuus
multiaccounting ITT
what about his statement makes you say that?
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10-17-2012 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by leslierad
Dear Leslie,

....Other than the non-US player balances, The Rational Group did not assume any liabilities of the previous Full Tilt Poker companies and therefore previous contractual agreements that Full Tilt Poker may have had with affiliates were excluded. As such, The Rational Group is not liable and will not pay for any affiliate earnings which may have been due to you under your agreement with any former Full Tilt Poker company.

For those accounts where player funds are commingled with funds derived from affiliate earnings, The Rational Group will only be making the portion of the funds relating to your previous player activity available for withdrawal.

Separately, as we are working around the clock to get the new FullTiltPoker.com site up-and-running by November 6, we are unable to offer an affiliate program for Full Tilt Poker at this time. We do intend to launch a new affiliate program in the first quarter of 2013, under the Rational Group, which will be a joint program with PokerStars. This future program will give you the opportunity to promote and earn from both brands. We look forward to engaging with you on a new partnership going forward.

Sincerely,

Full Tilt Poker
Haha, seriously? So we're not going to pay you, but please promote our new brand next year.

I'm not an affiliate, but I'd stay well clear.
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10-17-2012 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by alexuuus
multiaccounting ITT
Are you saying I am multiaccounting? I sayed that I started playing poker after black friday (after fulltilt was closed), so I don't have an account there.
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10-17-2012 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by danuuutz
Are you saying I am multiaccounting? I sayed that I started playing poker after black friday (after fulltilt was closed), so I don't have an account there.
Stop lying OhCanada1987, I have hands against you from January 2010.

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10-17-2012 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by grunta0
How can you say this? The US government has always stood for Truth, Justice and the American way (hang on that might have been Superman).

No disrespect intended to American citizens but why is it impossible to get a government to do what the people want?
Thats what happens if there are only two choices.../derail
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10-17-2012 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by liyaan
Stop lying OhCanada1987, I have hands against you from January 2010.

Please stop acusing people of multiaccounting... I play on stars and my username is danuuutz .... I have never played on Full Tilt and I don't multiaccount on any site (and I don't understand why someone would multiaccount).
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10-17-2012 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by danuuutz
Please stop acusing people of multiaccounting... I play on stars and my username is danuuutz .... I have never played on Full Tilt and I don't multiaccount on any site (and I don't understand why someone would multiaccount).
Didn't want to chime into this but if your screen name on Stars is danuutz how do you explain the screenshot YOU posted which despite you attempting to edit out your screen name clearly shows that your screen name is not danuutz.
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10-17-2012 , 09:43 AM
let's take a different direction from all this rakeback talk for a second, why is the DOJ taking their sweet ass time in finding a payment proccessor. And so painful they haven't anounced all players will get their full balance. Just not fair. Im not too worried about not getting paid cause it would be very bad for pstars and tilt image if row players got full balances and usa didn't. (despite pstars giving the DOJ EXTRA money to make sure usa players get paid)
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10-17-2012 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedsToBeSaid
Go back in time and lobby for the GBT deal?
Lol of course not. However, PokerStars getting the players paid does not mean every decision they make after that point is flawless.

So while as players we should be thankful that we get our money back, which likely would not have happened were it not for Stars, we shouldn't just accept everything that happens from that point onward without question.
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10-17-2012 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by danuuutz
Please stop acusing people of multiaccounting... I play on stars and my username is danuuutz .... I have never played on Full Tilt and I don't multiaccount on any site (and I don't understand why someone would multiaccount).
Im not saying you multiaccount im calling you a liar.

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Originally Posted by SAIBOT24
Didn't want to chime into this but if your screen name on Stars is danuutz how do you explain the screenshot YOU posted which despite you attempting to edit out your screen name clearly shows that your screen name is not danuutz.
He plays under danuuutz on Stars.FR (don't know how he plays there from Canada tho).

Didn't mean to derail the thread but lying is bad mmmkay?
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10-17-2012 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by grunta0
How can you say this? The US government has always stood for Truth, Justice and the American way (hang on that might have been Superman).

No disrespect intended to American citizens but why is it impossible to get a government to do what the people want?
Because 300 million people don't all want the same thing uniformly?
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10-17-2012 , 02:13 PM
20 days.. need moar info :P
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10-17-2012 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by liyaan
Im not saying you multiaccount im calling you a liar.



He plays under danuuutz on Stars.FR (don't know how he plays there from Canada tho).

Didn't mean to derail the thread but lying is bad mmmkay?
You can play on stars.fr from Ireland here legally, presume Canada is the same.

You have to give them bank details as verification, and pay higher rake is all.

Mtt's are meant to be softer though
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10-17-2012 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sundancekid8
You can play on stars.fr from Ireland here legally, presume Canada is the same.

You have to give them bank details as verification, and pay higher rake is all.

Mtt's are meant to be softer though
IIRC it has to be a bank account in the EU though.
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10-17-2012 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2bad4u
FTP has has historically been bad for "high level" grinders. I remember the plan being:

1) Start off on FTP to build a decent BR with RB + other bonuses

2) Move to Stars when you can put in enough volume to achieve SN+

3) ???

4) PROFIT!
45% rakeback through an affiliate
4x ftp points, 5x during happy hour; much more as of late
Ironman Medals and literally free academy credits


Rush Poker

Profit
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10-17-2012 , 03:38 PM
enough with the ******ed offtopic..

even though I'm pissed about the removal of rakeback.. I'm somewhat excited about the return of Full Tilt. Just hoping the new vip system will be reachable with moderate play for a small/microstakes gamer.
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10-17-2012 , 04:25 PM
This random "danuuutz is a multi-accounter" back and forth is a total derail of this thread and really has no place here.
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10-17-2012 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 28renton
This random "danuuutz is a multi-accounter" back and forth is a total derail of this thread and really has no place here.
I completly agree with that. Thank you
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10-17-2012 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tirppa
enough with the ******ed offtopic..

even though I'm pissed about the removal of rakeback.. I'm somewhat excited about the return of Full Tilt. Just hoping the new vip system will be reachable with moderate play for a small/microstakes gamer.
i read some where its 2,50$/100 fpp?

if your a micro stakes player it should be possible to get 2,50$ a week
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10-17-2012 , 05:18 PM
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For those accounts where player funds are commingled with funds derived from affiliate earnings, The Rational Group will only be making the portion of the funds relating to your previous player activity available for withdrawal.
A player/affiliate does the following:
- Makes $10,000 playing
- Makes $10,000 from affiliate earnings
- Transfers $10,000 from affiliate account to player account (the only way to withdraw) resulting in $20,000 balance.
- Withdraws $10,000, leaving $10,000 balance.

How much is available for withdrawal?
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10-17-2012 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jschell
A player/affiliate does the following:
- Makes $10,000 playing
- Makes $10,000 from affiliate earnings
- Transfers $10,000 from affiliate account to player account (the only way to withdraw) resulting in $20,000 balance.
- Withdraws $10,000, leaving $10,000 balance.

How much is available for withdrawal?
Probobly nothing.
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10-17-2012 , 06:55 PM
PS fanboy here and I think what PS is doing is wrong regarding affiliates.

We work and earned our money to deposit into PS. Affiliates earned the money they got and it was also deposited on PS. PS was required to pay all player balances.

I really don't see how PS can get around to not paying affiliates money if this was escalated. Not even accounting how much an affiliate is able to with draw when he lost or transferred money from his account.

Im sure before PS decided to do this, they checked with the lawyers first but I hope this gets escalated or causes a big enough commotion for this to be righted.

Also pretty good idea to wait before allowing affiliates to get a cut of the pie as when it opens, so many people will already reopen and open new accounts.
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