well... if they release a buggy site the likelyhood of players withdrawing their new found funds is drasticallly increased i would think, so they will want to make absoluetely sure everything runs smoothly, enticing people to stay... this is also in our long term interest but i agree i would love to have my little fish avatar back tomorrow!

Can I finally get rakeback

Hey Sham,

Any updates / response would be great coming from you. If you are too busy maybe you could assign someone to actually be updating this thread daily? What pro's will you be signing to represent the new FTP?

Thanks,

i really think shyman got canned, poor guy

Lololol You are the sole reason ******ed politicians exist. Haha the fk global warming is real. Can't believe people still believe that its mans fault that global warming exists. I thought that this problem ended like 4 years ago.
Off topic I know, but I laughed so hard when I saw this.

WHOOOOOOOOOSH

Good thing though, all the cold air up by your head will offset the heat from your PC.

To everyone asking why they can't just get the site up and running in a week or 2 despite having staff/software there is a huge factor. Something that a lot of you probably don't realize.

Well over 50% of people are going to withdraw their ROW funds when the site opens back up. They are going to need legitimate/good payment processors. The old ones before Black Friday to the illegal countries were sometimes guys printing checks out of their basements. It wasn't some elaborate payment processor. Most legitimate online payment processors aren't very eager to do business with a poker site that stole 100s of millions of player funds.

No clue how they are going to solve this problem.

And what of the SNG, which was launched during the closing ftp? i get my buy-ins?

Any plans to make arrangements to help multitabling on stars and ftp at the same time? For example, on stars if you hit F9 all tables will spread accross your screen. It would be awsome if you can mix in both sites with these kind of table hotkeys.

If Pokerstars can get payment processers for Pokerstars the can probobly use the same ones for Full Tilt. They even said they hope to have the same options as Pokerstars has, so that likley means the same payment prossesers as Pokerstars.

Shyam gonna Shyam.


Dissapear for months between posts.


Great customer service guys! I wonder if we can get the blackcard version of Shyam? Because apparently people think blackcard gave good service.

The fist time I used the Black card email was a few days after black Friday. I send them a load of document scans to make sure that when I made a withdrawal my account would not be locked like some people had said had happened on 2+2. I also asked if customer accounts where segregated.

It took only 59mins to reply saying I could now make cheque withdrawals. The second question was ignored but I figured out the answer myself in the end.

Yea this is a must. I would say something simple like a (x) box to include Stars tables when you save/apply a custom layout on Full Tilt, and vise versa.

Please implement this. Would make things so much easier

It's not this simple.

You haven't worked in software development or been in business before have you. So many factors to consider, many that you and I won't even he able to think of

FT Software > PS Software > All others

+1
And i hated the pop up messages on PS.

new to this site whats the cliffs

cliffs:
updates comin tomorrow, most likely

My guess.... don't assume that just because PokerStars purchased FTP that they intend to keep it indefinitely. The most obvious course of action, which also seems to be consistent with the approach they announced they will take with FTP, is for them to get the site back online, get players paid, restore the brand and make the site profitable again.

At which point it will be more valuable asset that can be sold. Most likely to a credible US operator (casino) once the legality of online poker is clarified in the US. Price will be steep for PokerStars to recoup what they had to pay to players and to get the site back on track but deal can include a not uncommon provision that a portion be paid from the company's profits over the course of many years.

It doesn't have to be a US operator but I think that would be the most profitable. I'm reading a lot between the lines here but this is why I think the deal makes me hopeful that online poker will come back to the US soon.

If I'm correct... Don't expect any features that would closely integrate the sites that would have to be disabled after a sale. Don't expect changes that would make FTP objectively equal to or better than Stars.

Do expect that the software and infrastructure will be at least be brought current as if the company has been in more or less continuous operation up to this point. Do expect (I hope) PokerStars to clean house within the ranks of FTP. Maybe some changes to promotions/rakeback/etc depending on how they impact financials.

In my view FTP's ultimate demise was it's desire to beat PokerStars which led them to make stupid decisions and spend more than they could. PokerStars won't have that problem so it shouldn't be hard to get the company healthy again.

For all intents and purposes, the sites should be considered two separate companies and not one if you want your suggestions to go through.

These are just my views. I have no inside information but I have "independently confirmed this by thinking about it."

tl;dr not sure why I responded to you might need to remember the password to my blog if things are headed where I think they are

That's for cash games and it's modeled after live cash game rules where you don't have to show your cards when you're all in until showdown, and then don't even have to show if you muck. I've never played live but I do remember this coming up at least once on HSP.

To make it more authentic maybe they can implement this: Whenever players are all in the action should pause and you get to select whether to show your hole cards or not. If one or more players decides to keep his hole cards concealed sufficient time should be given to other players at the table to try and convince the player to show their cards. This can take a couple of minutes so maybe some quick nag buttons like "c'mon what's the big deal just show", "it's good for the game", etc can be used. After sufficient nagging the remaining cards can be dealt.



I always liked Stars software better but a few days ago I downloaded the new PokerStars client from the High Stakes thread link and played some play money for old time's sake. There have been substantial changes in the client especially when it comes to animation.

Lol. No way they sell FTP. They managed to purchase their biggest competitor and most of their player pool for like 1/3rd of what it was worth before Black Friday.

Piss off man.You are getting your money back.You are guaranteed that so have a bit of patience.

Any criticism of full tilt or shyam at this stage is stupid.

Sit down what for another 70 days and you will have all yours questions answered

There's an option to turn them off.

They didn't need to purchase their player pool. They already had FTP's player pool. At least for those players that were able to still play online poker. Or haven't you noticed all the new high stakes action on stars since FTP shut down?