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08-15-2012 , 12:11 PM

#401

bizzle03

adept

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,000

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Originally Posted by DavidNB

Maybe Lee jones had dealt with it/ Anyways I recall reading that any with draws that didn t pass were already credited back to the account.

I don't recall seeing this anywhere, other than iirc DF saying she believed that happened a while back but wasn't positive.

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08-15-2012 , 12:15 PM

#402

lixes

banned

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 99

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08-15-2012 , 12:32 PM

#403

zachvac

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,775

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Originally Posted by three_dee

I agree with the statement that PTR needs to be blocked.

As far as it showing whether you're a big winner, I disagree. It is missing a good 80% of my hands. I'm sure people who put in way more volume than I did have far more skewed stats. (Not that I'm complaining -- I'm thrilled if people go PTR my SN and think I'm not a big winner. So it actually works in my favor. Just saying, it's definitely not accurate.)

If they are missing 80% or more of people's hands, how can that in any way be reliable? 20% of your hands can represent the best run-good ever, or your worst downswing you ever had.

sigh and I'm sure you doubt the political polls shown on TV because it's .00001% of the population right? Whether a statistical sample is reliable has to do with how many data points not with what % of the overall population it represents. If I have 150k hands from you when you actually played 100 million hands, and I have 49,999 hands out of their 50k hands played, I'll still have a better idea of what your true winrate is than the guy I only have 49,999 hands on.

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08-15-2012 , 12:36 PM

#404

O Falsidico

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 55

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Originally Posted by bizzle03

I don't recall seeing this anywhere, other than iirc DF saying she believed that happened a while back but wasn't positive.

Q: I requested a cash-out from FTP and it was debited from my account, but I never saw the money. Do I get the money back?

A: All player account balances and transactions will be reviewed, including pending cash-outs. Once account balances have been verified (including any adjustments for pending cash-outs), players will be able to cash out. At this point, we have no access to individual accounts so we’re unable to discuss your particular case. We appreciate and thank you for your understanding and patience until we can get this resolved.

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08-15-2012 , 12:43 PM

#405

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,774

Thanks for yesterday's update

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08-15-2012 , 01:02 PM

#406

BigPoppa

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22,216

I think a lot of us are worried that FTP may not have accurate records of which cash outs went through and which didn't. This is especially worrisome for the players like myself who had cash outs that never went through in America then later relocated out of the country. In my case, I had pending cash outs when I moved to Canada and another that never went through in Canada.

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08-15-2012 , 01:02 PM

#407

Reaper421

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 663

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixfour

Thanks for yesterday's update

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08-15-2012 , 01:45 PM

#408

teqfrog

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 138

I am in the USA, so I cant play for real money. How about a play money pro status

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08-15-2012 , 01:57 PM

#409

kingkong32

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 173

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Originally Posted by Toocoolforschool

Shyam Markus Can you please confirm this and why other players could not get the same option?

just google full tilt cash back bonus for confirmation

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08-15-2012 , 02:11 PM

#410

Toocoolforschool

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 387

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Originally Posted by kingkong32

just google full tilt cash back bonus for confirmation

OK just googled it, so how were they doing this if you didn't have rakeback with FT because you have no idea where you signed up which means the affiliate was earning your rakeback so does this mean FT were paying them out your rakeback and now paying you again which means they are paying rake twice one to player and full rake to affiliate yours and theirs?

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08-15-2012 , 02:22 PM

#411

neverbeclever

banned

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,405

I first need to address the fact that I was also FTPDoug.

Funny you mentioned that cause everything dougie said in the past didnt mean dick in the end...

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08-15-2012 , 02:25 PM

#412

kingkong32

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 173

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Originally Posted by Toocoolforschool

So why did other players get refused this deal?

don't know... one of my friends tried to get it but he was refused. so he made a second account and if he is caught now maybe he will also banned from stars. i really hope ft solves this rakeback problem

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08-15-2012 , 02:48 PM

#413

Toocoolforschool

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 387

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkong32

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Originally Posted by __w__
Anybody else get a target goal that's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay lol too high for their expected level? Mine is 10k, and I don't think I've ever touched that in a month. Great promotion, really goofy implementation.

And this is Full Tilts standard reply

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Hello XXXXX

Thanks for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

You've asked about the possibility of receiving rakeback but at this
time, Full Tilt Poker does not offer rakeback directly to players.

There are a number of affiliate companies which offer rakeback if
players sign up to Full Tilt Poker through their website. However, it
appears that you were referred to Full Tilt Poker from an affiliate
which does not offer rakeback. We are unable to switch your account from
this affiliate to another, as our agreement with affiliates prohibits
this.

We understand that you are interested in such promotions in the future
and if the situation changes, our players will be the first to know and
we will contact you when we have more news.

Regards,

Richard
Full Tilt Poker Support

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Hi all,

My name is Shyam Markus, and I'm the Poker Room Manager at Full Tilt Poker

Your the boss Shyam please sort this out, Rakeback for all players not no rakeback for players who signed up through some dodgy affiliate.

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08-15-2012 , 02:51 PM

#414

chipdeposit

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 36

Can I be pro.

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08-15-2012 , 03:18 PM

#415

jukitas

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 276

is rakebaackpros pay my rakeback and still working?
i cant see their website...

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08-15-2012 , 03:26 PM

#416

Bgrind09

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 277

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toocoolforschool

yeah would be good if they sorted this out seems wierd that players who dont have rakeback play on other sites to receive it so its a lose situation for all affiliate player and FT.

Just reading on another thread regarding the Cash back bonus

And this is Full Tilts standard reply

Your the boss Shyam please sort this out, Rakeback for all players not no rakeback for players who signed up through some dodgy affiliate.

+10000000000000000

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08-15-2012 , 03:53 PM

#417

power

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 41

I think FTP paid affiliates based on net revenue of a player and when they offered cash back to these players who had no rakeback they just deducted this bonus from net revenue so non-rb affiliates kind of got screwed? I am not sure because I got normal 27% rakeback from my affiliate. And though I like the software a lot I definitely wouldn't play at FTP without that rakeback.

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08-15-2012 , 04:29 PM

#418

andyg2001

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,905

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Originally Posted by power

If the player linked to the non rakeback affilete would only play with rakeback then the non rakeback affilate would make more with FT giving the player direct rakeback. If the above is how things worked.

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08-15-2012 , 04:39 PM

#419

Stake Monster

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,941

Quote:

Originally Posted by O Falsidico

What if we requested a cashout and it was confirmed as "Sent" but I never received the check? I understand they will review the transactions, but will they be able to see "beyond" confirmed cashouts to see if the money was ever even really sent? As far as the cashier is concerned I got a check I never cashed in.

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08-15-2012 , 04:46 PM

#420

Drifter84

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 387

thanks shyam for all the answers!!

i have one more.. already asked it but no problem!

Will we be able to see our transaction history from before bf?

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08-15-2012 , 05:33 PM

#421

DavidNB

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,332

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stake Monster

I would imagine they would check their accounts to see if payment was actually withdrawn or not. Alot of people had cashouts pending and marked sent and everyone would have to be checked.

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08-15-2012 , 06:22 PM

#422

BigPoppa

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22,216

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidNB

I would imagine they would check their accounts to see if payment was actually withdrawn or not. Alot of people had cashouts pending and marked sent and everyone would have to be checked.

With some accounts having been seized, we have no idea if accurate records even exist.

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08-15-2012 , 06:23 PM

#423

fishinfornuts

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 402

im with bigpoppa..

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08-15-2012 , 06:59 PM

#424

markksman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 20,921

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPoppa

With some accounts having been seized, we have no idea if accurate records even exist.

Plus full tilt was not a well managed company so you have to hope their record keeping was decent enough in the first place.

I think there will be hiccups for some because I am positive FTP was horribly managed and they likely had poor record keeping which makes tracking these issues down much harder. However, I am convinced stars will do all they can do to fight through the mess that is likely FTP records and their bank records to work it out.

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08-15-2012 , 07:17 PM

#425

DavidNB

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,332

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPoppa

With some accounts having been seized, we have no idea if accurate records even exist.

Yea , may of been seize but they still would of gotten any transcations prior.
I think the only problem they will run into is cheques that were mailed but never cashed

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