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10-20-2012 , 03:04 AM

#4051

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben wb

Galfond was talking about PLO, not O8 but it's best to ignore mumpfmampf, if isildur was losing at 20bb/100 in 08 he'd be down $3.8m by now. He's actually losing at 1bb/100 currently. Incidentally joiso is actually the biggest loser in O8 this year.

you may want to look up hsdb, joiso up 400k in o8 in one day, most of it from isildur obviously.

what´s your excuse for blom this time?

10-20-2012 , 03:27 AM

#4052

AKingdom

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,520

Quote:

Originally Posted by Much Obliged

Isildur's jollies come straight from playing. Having money in his account is simply a no go. Bankroll building isn't a concern because he knows or believes if he really wanted to, he could run up his bankroll significantly. However, his passion and love for the game, regardless of how much his competition is better doesn't matter. It's the mere rush of shooting up and down and taking bold risks is what drives him.

I can live with this summation, sounds bout right.

10-20-2012 , 04:08 AM

#4053

moki

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,051

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKingdom

Umm, an ego problem? I think not. I have not see anything to indicate that Blom is anything but a humble guy. As for him clearly being a degen, he's said before that he doesn't really care about the money. The line between him not caring about money the way that we do and just playing for fun on the one hand and being a degen on the other, is not nearly as clear cut as you make it sound. I suggested that we don't really know yet. You're assuming that Blom thinks the way other people do but that's not necessarily the case, especially if -like I said- he doesn't see things (esp. money) the same way most people do. He seems to play just for the challenge of it, always playing the best players no matter what, even in games he's not schooled in. It seems that challenge > money for Isildur in contrast to a degen or someone with a 'gambling problem' for which gamble > money. So maybe I've just answered my own question, my conclusion is that Blom is a compulsive self-challenger and that's what he puts above all else, even money. It's ironic that this compulsion to self-challenge which is probably one of the keys to his success is also his achilles heel.

Without knowing him personally at all, what you've said sounds very accurate to me. I don't think he's a degen in the classic sense, and I definitely think he's a humble guy. Compulsive self-challenger sounds about right... hopefully it doesn't devolve from there.

10-20-2012 , 06:06 AM

#4054

oscillator

SIWAS

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,371

Aside from standard degening, small chance he wants to build a roll for 200/400 before FTP puts limit restrictions on him? Meh...

10-20-2012 , 06:09 AM

#4055

~Caligula~

adept

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 968

My god, this entire thread has become an endless debate about whether isildur is good or not.

Yaaaawwnnnnnnnn.

10-20-2012 , 06:22 AM

#4056

sagoland

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 592

He´s a unique guy, anything is possible really.

10-20-2012 , 06:31 AM

#4057

Frantic_

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,023

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscillator

Aside from standard degening, small chance he wants to build a roll for 200/400 before FTP puts limit restrictions on him? Meh...

The only limit restrictions I can imagine to bring back the days of old ftp rail haven are the limits that he has to play at least 100/200 or higher imo

10-20-2012 , 07:47 AM

#4058

loveminuszero

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,920

Quote:

Originally Posted by mumpfmampf

you may want to look up hsdb, joiso up 400k in o8 in one day, most of it from isildur obviously.

what´s your excuse for blom this time?

Don't know where you got your numbers, because HSDB has Isildur at -$148k over 20k hands whereas joiso is -$415k in only 6k hands of FLO8.

So your suggestion that joiso can expect to beat Isildur at 20bb/100 doesn't seem to be a statement backed up by fact, now does it?

10-20-2012 , 08:14 AM

#4059

Adebisi_34

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 587

Quote:

Originally Posted by BullDyke

Seems like it but who knows maybe he has a couple of megas locked up for retirement and just rather gamble with his disposable income than buying houses and cars. Regardless so far he's done pretty well for himself and this thread would not be the same without him.

u must be a bright fella!

10-20-2012 , 08:40 AM

#4060

ben wb

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,622

Quote:

Originally Posted by mumpfmampf

you may want to look up hsdb, joiso up 400k in o8 in one day, most of it from isildur obviously.

what´s your excuse for blom this time?

Actually mumpmampf, isildur is up in O8 since I made that post. His winrate is about -0.7bb/100 now (he even briefly got back into profit yesterday) and why would I need an excuse? it's likely that he's a marginal loser long term in O8 currently but it's already mathematically impossible that he's anywhere near a 20bb/100 loser. By the way I wasn't implying that joiso was a losing player, it's far too early to tell, but it was quite funny you were assuming he would have an absolutely ridiculous edge based on no evidence at all.

Last edited by ben wb; 10-20-2012 at 08:46 AM.

10-20-2012 , 08:57 AM

#4061

BlackDespair

veteran

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,293

I am pretty sure we don´t have to worry about isildur. Have their been any assumptions what his FTP deal will earn him? I´d think it´s more than the 100k/month he got from PokerStars. Eventually, he´ll make a big run again! I predict within the next year we will see sick sick action again.

10-20-2012 , 09:12 AM

#4062

Jukeboksi

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 24

Also, even if Viktor were to lose _absolutely everything_, he'd still be able to live, eat and sleep in a warm apartment due to social security. It's a good safety net to have when playing with money like he does, especially when so young still.

10-20-2012 , 09:20 AM

#4063

David123

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,818

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDespair

I am pretty sure we don´t have to worry about isildur. Have their been any assumptions what his FTP deal will earn him? I´d think it´s more than the 100k/month he got from PokerStars. Eventually, he´ll make a big run again! I predict within the next year we will see sick sick action again.

why do you want assumptions?

Last edited by David123; 10-20-2012 at 09:24 AM. Reason: ppl with educated guesses and facts not allowed? :O

10-20-2012 , 09:31 AM

#4064

Mecastyles

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,657

this thread became unreadable, make an isildur discussion thread please jfc

10-20-2012 , 09:42 AM

#4065

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecastyles

this thread became unreadable, make an isildur discussion thread please jfc

I agree. And it's not plausible to put every single person on your ignore list either.

10-20-2012 , 09:42 AM

#4066

Adam87

adept

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,015

I agree, i think this is becoming a bit over the top with isildur discussion. Time to make an offical isildur monthly thread i think.

10-20-2012 , 09:43 AM

#4067

Queen6Suited

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,876

Don't understand the logic behind ftp or stars sponsoring anyone 100k pmonth, just no way they can bring that kind of money back to the company surely?

10-20-2012 , 09:59 AM

#4068

loveminuszero

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,920

As far as I know there was never any proof as to how much Stars paid Viktor

10-20-2012 , 10:04 AM

#4069

Jamie Platinum

Moonwalking

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7,198

I, also, am not sure why the same four people say the same four things on a bi-weekly basis

10-20-2012 , 10:05 AM

#4070

Queen6Suited

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,876

wut

10-20-2012 , 10:10 AM

#4071

Big_Mick00

Verified Coach MTT

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,702

Jamie please make an isildur thread this thread has become aids and I have 7/8 people from here on ignore it ridiculous.

10-20-2012 , 10:19 AM

#4072

gargar11

On the HS Rail

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,798

Isildur is the main catalyst of all crazy action at the high stakes and you just can't ignore him. He's the protagonist in his swingy drama against the world, so he has the biggest comment count.
High stakes thread balances itself with some moronic comments but it has that golden stuff by Vanilla Thunder, IcePrincess, Testi and others (sorry for not mentioning all hand posters but that's not the main point). It can't be highly polarized with only good stuff

True HS railers with find a way to read normal stuff and filter all the crap.

10-20-2012 , 10:38 AM

#4073

ben wb

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,622

The thread just needs a decent moderator to get rid of a lot of the nonsense. To be honest, Jamie Platinum was always a very strange choice for moderator and it's about time he was replaced.