Seriously ? You know that the software allows someone, anyone, to see "what the flop, turn and river WILL BE" ?


If so, that is insane .... THAT should be the THE BIGGEST POINT in exposing ANY operation that runs such software. Knowing what the flop turn and river will be is worse even than "only" knowing opponents' hole cards.

Totally indefensible from a customer, an operations or security standpoint.... not even a hole-card super-user could see into the future too.

No need to flop if only one player remains, so no need to "predesignate" the prospective flop cards, same for the turn and river. Designate the cards only after the action has reached that point.

No flop, turn or river data needs to be created unless and until called for by the players' action in the hand. "Pre-designation" is just either piss-poor design or deliberately set up for cheating. ANY decent RNG certification would require such sequencing be present.

It reads differently if hoosierdaddy's post says... "anyone with clearance; that particular..."

I think maybe that was what he meant to communicate? As a way to describe how he had, until recently, believed that all online poker sites probably had some form of god-mode "feature," for monitoring/admin puprposes, but is learning now that this isn't the case.

Yes

"That particular software" I meant as an industry standard. I asked my original question bc I thought all software was able to be read by the person creating it, in charge, CEO, tech guys, people with the clearance to see something that sensitive.

I am uneducated in that subject. Why I asked. I thought someone could see everything that was going on. I thought all software was like that. A player could only see his cards, but the company can see it all. A rng picks a hand and everything is picked down to the river card, only variable is how the players will play out the hand.

If it's going to be another massive conspiracy theory based on ridiculous speculation, don't bother. I don't get the point of this silliness. It seems you want to bring Adnan down, but posts like this don't help the cause; they probably hurt it. I can't imagine that you would have any real evidence of rigging or super users in a site's first few weeks.

If you, or other people, have something substantive to add to this thread, feel free to do so. But I imagine a vast majority of 2+2ers are already ignoring this thread after months of people bumping it with low/no content posts, especially from a few posters who felt the need (and in one case apparently still feels the need) to reply to almost every single post in this thread with very little to say. This thread doesn't need to be on the front page of NVG at all times to be effective. In fact, it would probably be much more effective if it spent a fair bit of time off the front page, and just rose to the top when there was significant news.

There is no need to create something that sensitive. There would be security holes with no benefit to security or administration of a site or game. If no data is created "for the future", instead of in real game time, there is nothing "sensitive" to secure.

To be clear, an RNG should deal cards in stages, like in a live game, in sequence as the players action moves in stages. If it pre-designates flops, turns and rivers that serves no legitimate purpose and would be unacceptable, poker-deficient programming.

To be clear. Peter and Adnan are scammers.

scam is a pretty generic term these days .... not that I have doubt it applies.

Do you specifically mean they were operating software which could provide them with early knowledge of "yet to be dealt" flop, turn and river cards ? ....and you know this is true of whatever app they were hosting games on ?

Please elaborate.

Do you not know how to read or are you that ignorant?

Thanks for the elaboration. Now there is no doubt.

Read the previous fifty pages you moron

I read a post that said the software allowed someone to see what the flop, turn and river cards would be, if the hand proceeded. See, posts 1275, 1276 and 1281.

You chimed in, in post 1282, but did not address that matter raised above.

I know how to read, I know how to ask for clarification, I know more about online poker than most people and probably more about poker software, security flaws and design than you do in post 1282, but thanks for the nonsequitor.

I know a window into the future would be possible IF the program or app were poorly designed and either not thought out or crooked.

Anyone know if NYPK ran or runs his business on such software, per Hoosierdaddy ?

I read all those posts as conjecture and not a statement of fact.

I think there was some mix up. Either in how I worded my question or how you read it. I have no idea what software nypk used to make pokerworld or how involved he is in the process.

The old platform where he is accused of not paying players was pppoker. I'm pretty sure he had no access to their rng and software. Just the guy who ran the club.

I asked if it were possible to see the cards by the person who runs the software for online card rooms in general. I asked because I believe if that is the case nypk would definitely be doing it on pokerworld.

I do not know what he has done or will do though.

I think the safe assumption is anything Peter Burrell or Adnan Mohammad are involved with is likely illegal and not ethical.

When you quote someone's post and then reply with something that is in no way related to that post, you're going to cause confusion. Perhaps you should think a bit more before starting the name-calling.

I thought you had finally stopped with the no/low content posts, but apparently not. Maybe you should read this:

Is anyone playing or signed up for his new club? Does anyone know anyone who is trying to play in new pokerworld club? Looking for information on how many players/tables are going? Any free rolls? Any info is helpful so we can expose him.

No. The club does not exist yet. Testing is still in progress. It's supposed to launch this week but it's supposed to launch this week for the past 3 months. There have been issues with the RNG.

The only people I know that are interested in joining the new club are Petey, Courtney, and jr problems.

No information on free rolls.

We don't have alot of information on pokerworld at the current time. Alot of attention on sports betting.

I can direct you to nypkkerfraudofficial on Instagram to keep up with Adnan shenanigans

Nypokerking has been telling people that he paid EVERYONE in full. So mr donkeycoter and everyone else owed money, is that true?

Ok time to update this thread since there is new news.

Pokerworld is dropping tomorrow for Android and iOS.

The free rolls are next week.

I will update the thread as more becomes available.

I am planning on joining the club just so I can monitor things internally.

For further updates please check adnans instagram at nypokerking .

UPDATE:
Posed as a fan of Adnan asking if pokerworld would launch for us to enjoy during NFL draft. He replied with RNG is still going through testing and will NOT be launching tonight. He said he wants to make sure everything is ready to go for the players and there's no glitches when it launches.

I'm going to take him at his word here.

I meant that as sarcasm. Nypokerking owes. And a lot more people than just donkey

Nypokerking posted on instagram he is owed 230k+ about the same time an account called poker scammer or something close to that posted text conversation of some player trying to withdraw 800 bucks back in January. Got the run around for over 3 months in text messages, still owed.

Thanks for the update. Any update on Petey? He owes me money 😠😠😠