NewYorkDegenKing

Just to be clear... the PokerClub dot AG is his supposed "club" right? People who play on that room are all tied to him. People could have signed up to that room using a different referral code but in all it still goes to him right?

Is this one of them?



But back on topic...

How are these payments being made? Are they really done via PayPal? It seems so, according to Donkey's recent posts.

Not for nothing, but there are ways scumbag scammers (scambags?) can circumvent PayPal. They'll make what would appear to be a legitimate payment, then file a complaint to PayPal with some reason why the payment should not be valid – wrong delivery location, overpayment, etc.

Not sure about the exact mechanics of these scams, nor do I know if they would be in play here. Just giving a word to the wise to proceed with caution if you're using PayPal to get your money back. A guy as shady as Adnan might have a few tricks up his sleeve that gives the appearance that he's making good, but in fact are further ways to screw you over.

PayPal transactions can be disputed 6 months later... If funded from a credit card, it can be as long as a year!

yea if i was owed 40k from this scumbag degnerate pos i would want cash in person i wouldn't trust paypal venmo etc from him.

Adnan drives $100K Bentley in the morning and a $1K POS at night... he posted that tonight with a picture of a POS car that’s 20+ years old... maybe a Chevy. Almost looks like an old cop car on second look...

There’s probably a decent chance that the $1K car is his only car.

I’m sure once it’s outted that he doesn’t really have a Bentley or that he “sold” his because having an expensive car like that is a waste and is a terrible investment. He will spin it one way or another I’m sure of it.

He sold it because his mom is in hospital. Didn’t you see the blurred out discharge papers only showing a date? Have some respect.

I am asking you to name the ones that YOU actually saw, which is what you claimed, not just read page six about, .... i.e not whether a "Warren Buffet" does X, but that YOU saw a "Warren Buffet" do X.

These people bragging about stealing from the club are just as scummy as NYPK, albeit on a much smaller scale.

Is it wrong to scam a scammer?

Yes obviously. Can't tell if you're serious or not. And in this specific case these people are claiming to have stolen from the club before any of this even came out. So what's the excuse for it now? Them stealing from the club may have even contributed to the likelihood that this idiot NYPK becomes insolvent and starts not paying out legitimate player balances.

"Obviously"?

I'd love to hear why it's so blatantly obvious that it's "morally" wrong to steal from somebody who routinely steals from other people. I'm not saying it's not wrong, but to call it "obvious" is absurd.

From what I understand, he had a long history of being a known scammer prior to this, so for the sake of the conversation we'll assume that they knew of this before scamming him. (If they did not know, then it's obviously a slamdunk wrong thing to do).

You’ve never heard the saying “two wrongs don’t make a right” at any time in your life? The act of stealing is always wrong doesn’t matter the circumstance.

Sounds rather sanctimonious

It would be hard to be clear on that.

It *COULD* be, however it's more likely that a club run by people he knew absorbed his workload and cut him in as a club head.

It's not about who's codes you use etc. It's about which club you join.

Every club gets rake from their own players. So if there is a 1/2 game and you have 1 player sat at 6max. You only make $ when your player wins a pot and gets raked.

No payments, no wire. Balance still 41k.

"$6k today" right?

****ed up man... is he at least communicating with you? Looks like he sent the other guy 1K at least yesterday. Best of luck thanks for keeping us updating so he doesnt get off easy not paying

i cant believe im actually answering this , but yeah plenty

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i can go on, but you wasted enough of my time

I mean, first of all it's not like he scammed the scammer to make the victims whole. If that was the case, you might have a valid argument about scamming the scammer. It's also not like he saw the scammer coming to scam him, and scammed him first. In that case, you would have less of a valid argument morally - but still one to be made.

But even though he may have been dealing with NYPK when he scammed him, he got money from the player pool, which is really coming out of the money of other players - where they're getting cashouts from. That contributes to insolvency as someone noted.

It's like the difference in noticing the dealer under-raked a pot and keeping your mouth shut, and noticing that your opponent put in too many chips to pay off your bet and keeping your mouth shut. The first example is stealing from the casino, the second is stealing from another player. Most people don't have any problem with the first, but most people have a problem with the second.

This example is more like the second.

And I know stealing isn't the perfect word there, it's not like you reached into the rake box and literally stole chips. It's a passive act, and there are valid reasons for not speaking up - speaking up negatively effects your future bottom line because people become aware that you're a math whiz who knows how much money is in the pot, and you're that ******* who helped the casino make more money.

He has been communicative, but mostly indicating that he is waiting on balances due from other people to him so he can pay out.

I had a couple of instances where other players did chargebacks or submitted a fraud claim to their bank, and money was pulled straight out of my bank account.

Not going to expand on this, other than say it's a real slimy thing to do.

I also had instances where I was overpaid by another player who was depositing (they accidentally sent 2 payments instead of one) which I returned to those players immediately.

Wait, I thought he was paying out of his own pocket?

I thought $60K was a drop in the bucket for him.

He has 400,000 dollars of recievables from people on the street. Probably waiting on some payments from them not from the poker club dot ag app.