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04-26-2016
, 02:24 PM
04-26-2016
, 05:29 PM
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I should think so too. Very much so. And batair I hope you will stop arguing for a moment, because its unnecessary. PD's image is inconsistent with ITSELF. It doesn't need external evidence or input.
Here's the thing. There is an urgent issue here. I can only think of three reasons this is going on. There is the either the possibility that PD has a cognitive problem (and therefore has a large gambling problem), OR that PD actually is a PS employee OR has family or friends that are employees of stars. There is clearly some emotional motivation to doing what they are doing.
I cannot tell which of these 3 possibilities they are, with such incomplete information so as a poker player I must feel that there is a 2/3rds chance they are actually legit shilling for stars.
I sympathize with the mods because there is a fine line between freedom of speech and censorship. But now there has been shown clear dis-ingenuity.
The problem for PD is that 2p2 was founded on reason and morality and has built their entire business model around it. PD threatens the value of the community for the reasons explained above.
Namely one cannot have 1200 posts explaining the difference between the nature of recs and regs, while simultaneously claiming ignorance in regard to rake and expectation.
*the rational choice for PD of course would be to choose "not shill" and claim cognition problems (regardless of the real truth!). Of course they cannot still claim to not understand exception. Given this line I also expect them to claim they don't have a gambling problem. But this would show more inconsistency to suggest that although they know the effects of rake on the game, they still continue to pour a ton of money and time into it.
**They might claim to not spend much time playing but of course they would be left with no way to justify spending so much time on a poker forum professing the importance of ps rake policy.
***and so of course since even PD agrees the games are being raked to an extent that recs are crushed, it perfectly stands to reason they are constantly losing a lot of money if they are playing as much as they post here.
****One cannot claim sincerity if the only motivation to be on 2p2 is to defend PS policy while not simultaneously spending an equally reasonable amount of time playing poker.
Here's the thing. There is an urgent issue here. I can only think of three reasons this is going on. There is the either the possibility that PD has a cognitive problem (and therefore has a large gambling problem), OR that PD actually is a PS employee OR has family or friends that are employees of stars. There is clearly some emotional motivation to doing what they are doing.
I cannot tell which of these 3 possibilities they are, with such incomplete information so as a poker player I must feel that there is a 2/3rds chance they are actually legit shilling for stars.
I sympathize with the mods because there is a fine line between freedom of speech and censorship. But now there has been shown clear dis-ingenuity.
The problem for PD is that 2p2 was founded on reason and morality and has built their entire business model around it. PD threatens the value of the community for the reasons explained above.
Namely one cannot have 1200 posts explaining the difference between the nature of recs and regs, while simultaneously claiming ignorance in regard to rake and expectation.
*the rational choice for PD of course would be to choose "not shill" and claim cognition problems (regardless of the real truth!). Of course they cannot still claim to not understand exception. Given this line I also expect them to claim they don't have a gambling problem. But this would show more inconsistency to suggest that although they know the effects of rake on the game, they still continue to pour a ton of money and time into it.
**They might claim to not spend much time playing but of course they would be left with no way to justify spending so much time on a poker forum professing the importance of ps rake policy.
***and so of course since even PD agrees the games are being raked to an extent that recs are crushed, it perfectly stands to reason they are constantly losing a lot of money if they are playing as much as they post here.
****One cannot claim sincerity if the only motivation to be on 2p2 is to defend PS policy while not simultaneously spending an equally reasonable amount of time playing poker.
04-26-2016
, 05:32 PM
04-26-2016
, 07:25 PM
Guys, I think you're overlooking a possiility of who the real troll might be here - "funplayer", the account was made this month. His first post was against me in this thread, and so are all his subsequent posts. Even his posts seem a bit trolly to me, wouldn't expect a genuine new account to immediately find this thread and start bashing someone.
Let's assume your account is genuine for a moment. The problem is you are only seeing this through "reg goggles". You are making out that anyone who plays in a game which is -EV is just "ignorant" or oblivious to the fact that they are losers in the game. But only a reg would think like this. Yes I'm well aware that the expectation of scratchcards is negative, but I still buy them from time to time (not very often, but I still do it). That doesn't mean I'm ignorant, I buy the scratchcards because I enjoy them and sometimes I'll get lucky and win something, or my friends might win something and if not then it's only $5 or whatever that I'll have lost.
Same with poker. Now I'm not sure what my EV is in these KO hypers or spin n gos because I haven't studied the game. But I may well be a -EV player after rake. But that doesn't mean they aren't fun to play every now and then. My flatmate's another example of someone who's very smart (top grades at 3rd year uni), but still gambles for fun. Regs looking through their one-sighted vision cannot see how it's possible that anyone with a brain would even buy scratchcards or other -EV games if they are aware it's -EV, well I'm smart and I still play these games for fun. Rec players are called recreational for a reason - they play poker as a recreational activity, a hobby/pastime for fun. Next you'll be approaching golfers and ice skaters and asking them about their hobby "why do you play these games? You're losing money from all the entry fees you pay, it's -EV!"
Same with poker. Now I'm not sure what my EV is in these KO hypers or spin n gos because I haven't studied the game. But I may well be a -EV player after rake. But that doesn't mean they aren't fun to play every now and then. My flatmate's another example of someone who's very smart (top grades at 3rd year uni), but still gambles for fun. Regs looking through their one-sighted vision cannot see how it's possible that anyone with a brain would even buy scratchcards or other -EV games if they are aware it's -EV, well I'm smart and I still play these games for fun. Rec players are called recreational for a reason - they play poker as a recreational activity, a hobby/pastime for fun. Next you'll be approaching golfers and ice skaters and asking them about their hobby "why do you play these games? You're losing money from all the entry fees you pay, it's -EV!"
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