Last time I open a good thread or a post that was not dull ????

Were is people sense humour gone? Has it gone forever or will people find really funny and weird humour or is it dead forever???

Still the funniest thing is always someone falling over and scream jump scare people I could watch that sh. It forever....

Not new been framed crap from mainstream tv. That stuff makes want to kill myself mainly because of the presenter and music making you wish you were dead..

I think a more accurate generalisation is that alcohol can affect someone's judgement but I am not aware of any evidence that it magnifies someone's weaknesses.

I think you may be wrong about it reducing one's inhibitions in men, because consumption of alcohol by men increases their estrogen levels, whereas consumption of alcohol by women increases their testosterone levels.

That's why when women are drunk they often get more raunchy and less reserved.... due to increased testosterone levels.

Heavy drinker men can develop moobs due to increases in estrogen levels.

Strange substance, alcohol!

This post by SD should be enshrined in the 2+2 Hall of Fame. Every statement is more cringe-worthy than the last.

Perhaps alcohol has magnified SD's intellectual shortcomings, whatever his affectations as a depository of physiological mis-information on the topic.

Alcohol consumption increases testosterone levels in women.

https://www.healthguidance.org/entry...-on-women.html

Alcohol consumption reduces testosterone levels in men and can increase estrogen levels.

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/a...-testosterone/

You need to try a lot harder when trolling me.

Try Googling it, you'll find dozens of articles supporting what I said about the differing affects of alcohol consumption on men and women regarding their estrogen and testosterone levels.

While on the subject, Japanese people (Will Kassouf has stated he is half Japanese) tend to get drunk more easily because the enzyme responsible for metabolising alcohol is not as effective as it is in Europeans for example.

You & Peteblow should get drunk together.

I think you need to do better research, Doctor. I actually HAD read the second article you linked before posting. The link says NOTHING about increasing estrogen levels in men, NOTHING.

As for the first article you cite, it does NOT say that alcohol increases or in any way affects the level of testosterone in a woman. Try reading your cited articles before pretending they say things like "increases testosterone levels in women."

You simply are not qualified nor understand the literature in the field. Google is just a search engine, it does not impart knowledge to you or mean you understand the substance of the links it finds. You seem to just make stuff up just to post in ignorance. You stuck out twice with your supposed authority cited.

How would it be helpful? You've already spoonfed him his excuse in the question.

Do you ever get to a point during one of your tangents, where you reflect on how you got here and decide that maybe it's time to back away from the keyboard?

Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree with this.

It isn't a tangent, on Twitter there is a lot of discussion of Will Kassouf not giving any detail on the specifics of what he is sorry for doing. And alcohol is clearly involved in the situation.

Gzesh has a habit of trolling me on threads and hates to admit when he's wrong even when presented by a lot of evidence proving that he is. He is in denial of the facts in his last post.

I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong as in my apology ITT regarding my mischaracterisation of the players hanging Will Kassouf out to dry.

Yeah I'm not sure why he thinks those links back-up his claims, the first is just some random article with no science backing it up and if you scroll down to the comments someone refers to a medical study that actually contradicts his assertions, the second link does as well.

No surprise he's a fan of Kassouf, his boorish, annoying behavior here pretty much mirrors what Will does at the poker table.

Clearly you never read or did not understand either of the links you posted above but now call them "a lot of evidence"

The first linked article says nothing about alcohol increasing the level of testosterone in women.

The second linked article never says anything at all about estrogen.

That's proof only that you post in complete, but perhaps blissful ignorance of endocrinology and everything else you "speculate" about.

You would not recognize "a lot of evidence" or "proof" even if they walked up to you and bit you in the ass.

Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing up that your posts about alcohol increasing testosterone and moobs isn't tangential to the topic of the thread, because, Twitter. Carry on then, everyone seems very intrigued by your thoughts on the subject.

I give up with you Gzesh, you are out to troll me, it's like a hobby of yours or something, and although often you have a legitimate argument or standpoint which I respect and respectfully debate with you, in this instance you are being silly, there are masses of articles and studies from various sources that back up what I am saying, plus many women's clearly observable less inhibited behaviour when tipsy or drunk is extra evidence of their increased testosterone levels after consuming alcohol (increased bravado and bravery).

Women are just as, if not more, horny as guys (*) but we judge them as sluts when they act on it.

* If you experience this differently it may be due to appearances.

You are ignoring that I made those points in response to PeteBlow giving his viewpoint that consumption of alcohol frees up the drinker to do bad things in their nature that they would not (be brave enough to) normally do.

It's therefore not a tangent, it is part of an existing discussion about the role that alcohol may or may not have played in the situation.

My much earlier ITT point was that alcohol is a depressant with my hypothesis being that if he was already depressed about bricking comps that alcohol consumption could have made him feel more depressed.

Anything he posts is by definition relevant because Sage is clearly involved in this thread and has a lot of relevant information that is being ignored and silenced by the Fake News and Biased users of 2+2.

how does a thread on a drunken jerk stealing chips turn into alcohol giving guys man boobs?

Riding my motorcycle to Laughlin this weekend for some poker, maybe a little roulette and craps. From personal experience, if someone were to steal chips from one of the guys in our group they would most likely receive several overhand rights to the middle of the face.

Douchebag got off easy.

It seems that you don't understand what a tangent is. Tangents are typically related to the original topic; I never suggested there wasn't some relation between the topics. And it usually takes two to tangent , so it's not like you own this by yourself - there are a couple of people debating these points with you. But you're often the common factor in tangents like this.

Do you notice all the negativity you're getting? I know you like to dismiss that as people trolling you, or taking issue with your contrarian position, or devil's advocacy, or whatever you like to call it. That's not what it is.

Here's the thing. If you could step back for a minute and objectively look at what's going on with the thread, perhaps you could see it. This is a thread about Kassouf allegedly stealing some money, and now you're talking about testosterone and moobs. I don't know if there could be a more textbook example of a tangent than that. You need to ask yourself how we got here. Yes, there may have been a logical path, and you didn't take it here by yourself. But at some point, a tipping point was reached where the tangent (which isn't always a bad thing) became a derail. A clue to when that was reached should have been when people started complaining about it.

And now I've taken us further out there. I'll probably delete our exchange later, or move it somewhere else. Maybe over to the OT/chat thread. Actually, that's exactly what I'll do. Then you can debate the topic of tangents with me if you like, or moobs with Gzesh. Or both.

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Fair points

SageDonkey,

Please stop. You've had your say with a bunch of posts ITT. You're contributing to derailing it now, IMO.

Anyone else who wants to post feedback has to do so knowing it's going to be sandwiched in between all these <100 word posts of yours and corresponding replies (like this one), which IMO can cause discussion to devolve prematurely.

You really fail at reading comprehension, despite supposedly having read through "masses of articles and studies" in this area.

Somehow, despite that exhaustive survey, the only two articles you posted to back up your claim do nothing of the sort, the one you posted regarding "estrogen" says NOTHING about estrogen.

Yet, there are somehow "masses of articles and studies ... that back up what you are saying" about estrogen, alcohol and men ?

What you are saying with respect to women, alcohol and testosterone is not supported by your "evidence"; you claim the level of testosterone is higher, when the article makes no such claim of higher testosterone levels and discusses iin very different terms only the effect of alcohol on women. Read what you linked, you may understand how you are mistaken.....

As for your "evidence" derived from your personal staring at drunk women supporting your claim, who knows what drunken tarts you hang out with or the scientific method under which you ogle them.

Hell, Bobo, just delete all his unsupported, mistaken drivel from the thread.

A dear friend of mine, a very good looking guy, swears that women use alcohol as an excuse to giving it up. "Oh, I was drunk."

So sad that men don't need an excuse to having sex but some women feel they have to rationalize why they succumb to what inherently is a biological need and function.

As long as sex involves two consenting adults and protection, mind your own business.

I quickly selected 2 articles out of 100s that broadly say the same things about alcohol/estrogen/testosterone.

Please accept my sincere apologies if the two articles don't meet the exacting standards and thresholds demanded by the one man kangaroo court that you have convened.

And who the hell do you think you are to aim baseless accusations at me? Your behaviour on this forum I am sorry is quite pathetic.

If the bolded part above isn't worthy of a ban I don't know what is.

Probably just nvGossip.