He has admitted himself that PLO is his weakest game. Even in NLHE, I don't think his understanding is anywhere near the top players, who have focused on NLHE and played tons of hands on internet, using tools like PokerStove, PT, forums to analyze and perfect their game. That, and the sheer amount of talent these young superstars who have risen to the top of poker world have. You can understand that by just thinking how many people who play poker seriously there are now, compared to the old days when only a few degenerate gamblers tried to play it professionally. Surely the cream of the crop from that vastly larger pool of players has to be more talented than from a much smaller pool of players. Also, back in the day, Doyle was mostly making money off fish in soft games, whereas today's top players play in insanely high level games all the time.

Surely Doyle can understand those principles, BUT he can't understand how to apply game theory to poker nearly as well as the new generation of players. I could link to a few of for example Lefort's posts in HSNL and those applications of GT would go way over the head of Doyle. And Lefort isn't even considered one of the best, although he can make some serious cash in mid to high stakes NL online.

Yes, I seriously doubt that. If durrrr wrote a book about poker revealing his thought processes and strategies, there might well be a lot for Doyle to learn.

]"First, I want to say I’m not interested in playing Patrik [not] because he is a weak player. On the contrary, I think he is a great player and I make him and Daniel Negreanu the favorites over anyone to still be playing 30 years from now. "

It was a typo on his part. Insert the word not in to the statement and it makes perfect sense.

Rather see Doyle playing dwan or that prick Full_FLush 2k/4k and seeing what happens when u have smarts vs experience. I would much rather these guys play random different games and having to change gears and adapt where some games will be each others strengths.

There isn't a typo in the original at all. Your revised edition is incorrect; Doyle is simply saying that the reason he's interested in playing Patrik has nothing to do with weakness.

Compare the statement:

I'm interested in playing Patrik because he's a weak player...

With what was actually said:

I'm not interested in playing Patrik because he's a weak player...


...And it should be abundantly clear what he means.

Yes, there wasn't anything in the post you meant as funny, but it was unintentionally funny nevertheless.


And what is relevant about the stakes? Do you Doyle or someone else would magically start having an edge if durrrrr agreed on playing nickle and dime?

I repeat: In two games that are by far the most popular atm.

If there were other popular games being played at the nosebleeds, durrrr probably would take the time to focus on them as well. Now there's no reason to waste time on f'ing stud poker.

Obviously no, durrrr has stated himself that Ivey is a better overall player than him (for now).


I think we can safely assume that until he posts a list of the games.


Nowhere, because it would be a lame challenge when he would need to name he's not willing to play against any of the top players.

I have nothing against Doyle, but thinking that at the age of 73 he's still onpar with today's top players is just stupid (especially with all the developments in the game in last years).

People give doyle way to much respect, have you seen him play on hsp ? He's just a standard nit... a dirty nit taking up space.

LOL at anybody who thinks that Doyle would change the game right before showdown. That's not what he meant. No way someone with his reputation would take an angle shot like that. Now Amarallo Slim maybe....

Yes, Boredom was OBVIOUSLY serious when he posted that.

this is very true

This is funny, Doyle can't beat 5/10 online so he blogs this to make himself feel better.

Hes old, who cares

Huge LOL at someone who namesake runs a online poker room insulting online poker. He must be very smart.

Lets play a game, shall we? You point to something I've said that was unintentionally funny, and I'll prove to why you're an idiot. Sound good?



It simply further specializes the challenge. That is all.

I repeat: Those are simply 2 out of dozens of possible games. Whether or not they are the most popular has no bearing on the fact that they are not representative of everything poker per se.

Durrrr's motivation in not learning Stud matters very little in this instance. The question isn't COULD he be good at Stud, it's IS he good right now. That's what the challenge is about.

And yet he offered him odds, UNDER HIS TERMS. Do you see how this disproves your point?



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Under what basis are you making this assumption? Please provide specific insight as to your thought process, or your assumption is worthless.

Exactly.


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He said that he could beat any one of them if he got to choose the game. Not the same thing as saying he could beat them at their own game.

idk about all these 50 year old ancient games that no one has played in 20 years....but i am waiting at 400/800 8 game on stars 7 days a week usually

you tell 'em J.

Im not so sure on what to think about Doyles "challenge" but i am sure that "pokerqexpert" has way too many posts in this thread.

well he is the expert, used to kill the games at the Bellagio I believe

can anyone really think that doyle wouldnt win this bet, if he can change the game to any game he wants, whenever he feels like it?

obv this is going to be tough for any internet or live player that doesnt spend times playing every mixed game out there

well skalansky hit it on the head

how can anyone think this wouldnt be a sure win for doyle?...

Explain your avatar please.

anything you can do I can do better. (think i'd accept this challenge imo)

Where can I bet on Justin in the 200m dash?

+1. An example of how unimpressive this sort of challenge is: if I could choose any reasonable challenge, I think I'd be a favourite against every single person in the world (assuming I could find out a bit about them first). I also think most people in the world would be a favourite in this versus anyone else. The reason is that it is extremely difficult to strictly dominate somebody else. The same logic applies to Doyle's challenge. All it could show is that no player can beat Doyle in every single game. So what? I'm presumably a favourite against Tiger Woods in poker and Stephen Hawking in a running race - but that proves little about how good I am at anything.

This isn't really the point of this thread and I dont want to hijack it but some people keep arguing that durrrr is a master of NLHE and PLO. I dont really think durrrr is that good in plo. Anyway his results dont show he really has an edge in the regular 500/1000 games online.

I don't even play head up. But if in additionto the games of HORSE you throw in Draw High, Ace To Five, Hi Lo Regular and Hi Lo Declare, I'll challenge anybody in the world to a 25K 200-400 Limit Freezeout. I choose the game and change it if I see fit.

If doyle will let me change the game as well....and let me play with 200k stop loss...cause after thsat point he can have my place but he'll have to pay the rent, and I could give him my golf clubs but they are xstiff 7 degree ping he wont get it airborne. better off using a putter. aside from that I think I'd take him up. I used to own university games 10 years ago playing 3 draws of five when I pick pregnant 3's or anything with a massive amount of wildcards. oooh I play a mean game of hearts too rip doyle...loves you tho. stomp