I remember about four or five years ago watching some of the high stakes online games then and being amazed at seeing pots that were 20K or so.

And while that still is a ton of money to most people, when you nowadays see the likes of Isildur1, Ziigmund, Ivey, etc., involved in pots routinely well over a half million dollars – and recently we’ve seen an online pot over a million – the stakes from nowadays make those five years ago look like the penny games.

Do you think the stakes are just going to keep increasing to mindblowing levels, or do you think they have currently reached their peak?

given inflation...there is no upperbound to what we can reach.

i remember it being like "wooooooOoOOOoOwww" when ftp introduced the 500/1k games, imgaine if they introduce 1/2k (even + maybe?)

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Over what time frame? I reckon for the next few years they've pretty much peaked and are too high for all but a handful of players. We might see 1k/2k PLO/NLH and maybe a 4k/8k limit game (at max) but it's really unlikely to go beyond that.

More likely they will go dow.

It makes no sense to believe that the 5 or 6 total players that play the highest will have enough money influx to be properly bankrolled for the games that they play actually, let alone bigger games, it sounds really far off, and if the young stars realize they are just recylcling the same money with each other probably will go down a bit where there is real profit and invest their money wisely, it will take some time cause young people are proud and stubborn, but with age and experience they will learn playing so high has nothing but downsides

just my 2 cents, if you care to flame go ahead, but please oh please lets leave my mom out of the topic ok?

Yeah, but many oldschool nosebleeders have already quit playing the highest stakes, because no one's really rolled for those 100k games, with very few exceptions.

If there would be 1k/2k tables (or higher) we'd just have less guys like FullFlush, martonas or isildur1 popping up, since the ridiculous amount money would be even more discouraging for many shot-takers.

wan mirrion/tu mirrion

i dont think stakes will raise in the next say 5 years.

Yeah, in the near future I don't see them going anywhere but down.

In the short term (2 years) $2500/5000 PLO played by max 6 players worldwide till over %50 or the majority are signed to a site players lose a huge amount.

I think its more like the young players have nothing to lose other then the money itself since they have few responsibilities and no family to support. The longer you live the more of these things you have and taking shots at nosebleeds can have a detrimental effect on the older guys' lifestyle and those around him then the younger ones.

the market will always go up over time. jan 1, 2011 will mark the increase to 1/2
also if the UIGEA is overturned i could see a ridiculous level put in.

I also noticed that most, if not all, of the absurdly high stakes acton takes place at Full Tilt.

Do you think that PokerStars will make any effort to try and bring higher stakes to their site, or are they so big and successful that they don't even care about this?

when Mr. Ivey decides to break isildur, that is when the 1k 2k NL and PLO tables will show up

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They will self-canibalise, unless somebody really rich who loves poker comes along and pumps mirrions into the economy every year or two.

Keep the stakes as they are. Just have an unlimited buy in amount.

1 arm / 2 arm imo

[ ] market always goes up over time
[x] in the long run we're all dead

I think the stakes are a bit too high as now. Sure it's nice to see a "mirrion dollar" pot, but that just can't be good for the nosebleeders in the long run. At least, not until some other "Guy Laliberte" shows up and dumps a few millions at the tables.

The actual nosebleeders regs are a very limited group of ppl, and in the end, they just exchange the money among themselves ultin it eventually reaches Ivey's pockets and never get seen at the tables again. They're not profiting, just exchanging chips.

The variance in the 500-1000 PL and NL games is too big (specially PLO), and can send any of the nosebleeds broke, or at least, FTPbroke. I guess besides Ivey, no other player is rolled enought to take the variace in those games.

It just can't be good when one of the best on-line players go busto in less than a month with losses exceding 6m, and when other nosebleeders regs like Ziigy and PA have to split tables to reload. If they were playing 300-600 at max, this situations wouldn't have happened imho.

I love to rail big games, but if they get any bigger now, it will come back and bite it in the ass.

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They will go down as they are too high now

On PAD Season 6 Ivey, Dwan and PA are all in a conversation talking about wanting a $500,000NL game, which I assume would be $2,500/$5,000 NLHE and PLO

Those guys are craving bigger stakes and with the pull these guys have at FTP I dont think it would be long before we see these kinds of tables specifically for these players and for us to rail

pointless post: ugh im so desensitized to even that now, so lame

pointless edit: i remember reading an excerpt from johnny chan's book long ago about how he used to get invited to 10k buyin games etc and how insane that seemed.

pe2: the argument for the nosebleed games depleting the economy is surely valid, but i think people need to be aware of how ^^^ encourages more degenerate activity, or at least detachment from online money

pretty bad assumption imo

these guys crave deep stacked cash game action, pretty unlikely they'd put up such a large % of their roll for a 100bb cash game (which, whilst not a crap shoot by any means, is relatively shallow stacked)

if its a 500k buyin my guess is that the blinds will be either 300/600 or 500/1000. if more than this, it won't be by much.