Nosebleed Cash Games in Macau thread
11-14-2010
, 05:29 PM
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If he's confused its might be because he's from somewhere in Europe, where (well in the UK at least) we don't have to beat the spread or the line or whatever, just straight bets on the winner (of course you can be more specific and bet on winning margins etc, but they aren't an obligatory part of the bet.)
you're right: i am from europe
11-14-2010
, 08:15 PM
11-14-2010
, 08:48 PM
11-14-2010
, 09:21 PM
grunch
How is
doing?
How is
doing?
11-14-2010
, 10:05 PM
11-14-2010
, 10:18 PM
feel free to divulge more poker stories, and hand histories from the game there Tom, do u play often(how did u get into the game, etc)?
Whats the funniest thing(except the gutshot hand) that has happened, or regularly happens?
thnx for posting
PS: will not be buying in, as the game seems a bit too small for my taste. i play big bucks in big pots bro
DS
Whats the funniest thing(except the gutshot hand) that has happened, or regularly happens?
thnx for posting
PS: will not be buying in, as the game seems a bit too small for my taste. i play big bucks in big pots bro
DS
Last edited by David123; 11-14-2010 at 10:29 PM.
11-14-2010
, 10:21 PM
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Hi Guys,
Don't often post as myself, but Matt sent me a link. Thought I would provide some clarity and yes I play in the game on and off. Its best described as a semi private game. The days of Brian Rast just turning up and winning a few million US$ are definitely over, but the guys that run the game definitely enjoy the challenge of playing against the world's best. I invited both Phil and Tom to Macau to both the APT and to play in the high stakes games.
There is absolutely zero racism at this table. It is mainly the language issue (as somebody posted earlier) as usually half the people playing don't speak english so naturally talk amongst themselves. When guys like Phil and Tom are playing there is obviously a mixture of languages spoken.
These "businessmen" are generally involved in the gaming industry in some form, casino junkets, sports betting etc and instead of losing tens of millions playing bacarrat every year discovered poker 2 years ago and have taken to it. Some have become very, very good (and got some excellent coaching), some are still hopeless. Obviously not to the level of Ivey and Tom, but can hold their own and they are fearless which makes them dangerous. Think the FT guys adjusted their game somewhat after losing the early sessions.
They like action and thats why people like Tom Dwan they find very fun to play against. They do not like nitty pros and have been known to change a game from a 10k / 20k (HKD) game to a 10/20k with 20k ante to force the pros to play. With some of the guys from a sportsbetting background, private insurance side bets are a source of great amusement (and relief to some of the smaller players when involved in a big pot). They also prefer to play against people bringing their own money rather than a pro who has been staked by 15 different people.
I think the biggest pot this week was actually 16m not 20m as stated though they have been far larger in the past. Many "businessmen" in Asia like to come and play in the "Big Game" as it is known to mix and mingle with the regular players there (not the Western Pros).
Zero chance of this ever being televised and cameras in casino gaming areas are banned in Macau so pics can only be taken undercover. However, I do think one day relatively soon you may see the game find its way onto the internet every now and then.
Biggest hand I ever saw and arguably the craziest was a guy betting HK$28m on the river into a HK$51m pot with a gutshot straight draw against what turned out to be top set. He was down over HK$100m at the time and hit it.
Thanks Matt for hosting another well run tournament
Tom
Don't often post as myself, but Matt sent me a link. Thought I would provide some clarity and yes I play in the game on and off. Its best described as a semi private game. The days of Brian Rast just turning up and winning a few million US$ are definitely over, but the guys that run the game definitely enjoy the challenge of playing against the world's best. I invited both Phil and Tom to Macau to both the APT and to play in the high stakes games.
There is absolutely zero racism at this table. It is mainly the language issue (as somebody posted earlier) as usually half the people playing don't speak english so naturally talk amongst themselves. When guys like Phil and Tom are playing there is obviously a mixture of languages spoken.
These "businessmen" are generally involved in the gaming industry in some form, casino junkets, sports betting etc and instead of losing tens of millions playing bacarrat every year discovered poker 2 years ago and have taken to it. Some have become very, very good (and got some excellent coaching), some are still hopeless. Obviously not to the level of Ivey and Tom, but can hold their own and they are fearless which makes them dangerous. Think the FT guys adjusted their game somewhat after losing the early sessions.
They like action and thats why people like Tom Dwan they find very fun to play against. They do not like nitty pros and have been known to change a game from a 10k / 20k (HKD) game to a 10/20k with 20k ante to force the pros to play. With some of the guys from a sportsbetting background, private insurance side bets are a source of great amusement (and relief to some of the smaller players when involved in a big pot). They also prefer to play against people bringing their own money rather than a pro who has been staked by 15 different people.
I think the biggest pot this week was actually 16m not 20m as stated though they have been far larger in the past. Many "businessmen" in Asia like to come and play in the "Big Game" as it is known to mix and mingle with the regular players there (not the Western Pros).
Zero chance of this ever being televised and cameras in casino gaming areas are banned in Macau so pics can only be taken undercover. However, I do think one day relatively soon you may see the game find its way onto the internet every now and then.
Biggest hand I ever saw and arguably the craziest was a guy betting HK$28m on the river into a HK$51m pot with a gutshot straight draw against what turned out to be top set. He was down over HK$100m at the time and hit it.
Thanks Matt for hosting another well run tournament
Tom
I hope he continues to post as he is an excellent source of information about the games.