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07-29-2022 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
+1 to I don't understand this at all. NYC is one of the biggest and richest cities on earth, and the hub of finance, and you can't find a single 10k+ buyin (or even 5k+) without going 1000 miles or leaving the country. Not to mention that Boston, Philly and DC are all right here too. It makes no sense.

LA can sustain at least one big series per year (LAPC) and a couple of medium sized ones. They're running 25ks and 50ks no problem in Ft. Lauderdale. And the entire Northeast somehow can't find the demand for a 5k? It's wild.

Like, if Borgata hosted a $25k once a quarter and partnered with Blade to fly people down there and made it nice, they wouldn't get 20 runners?

Before Covid, Borgata was running 3.5ks with 1200 people. Can they not also run a 10k with 300 people?

Just don't understand it at all
big events really died out outside of wsop a decade ago.

I can remember when borgata wpt mains were 10k during the boom.
Random circuit stops would have 5-10k mains. I don't think they'd get close to 300 for a 10k these days.
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07-29-2022 , 04:02 AM
True that big buy-ins had already declined, but... nonetheless, in the Northeast pre-COVID we had multiple venues, all regularly holding several tournament series with solid turnouts. And now, an absolute void. Nobody wants to claim all of that demand and take it ALL for themselves?
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07-30-2022 , 11:52 AM
Seminole got 2k runners for a 3.5k and 1200 for a 5k last yr. Massive void.

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07-30-2022 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Army Eye
True that big buy-ins had already declined, but... nonetheless, in the Northeast pre-COVID we had multiple venues, all regularly holding several tournament series with solid turnouts. And now, an absolute void. Nobody wants to claim all of that demand and take it ALL for themselves?
I do truly believe it's a political thing in northeast blue states where they don't want to run big events out of some irrational covid outbreak fear with people traveling in. In the same light as why people in this area (NE) wear masks, "I don't want people to think I'm a Republican."
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07-30-2022 , 03:09 PM
Let’s rent out a couple dozen thousand square feet in the American dream mall and just throw it ourselves. Just need a sponsor to pay dealers and other staff, buy chips and cards, and rent tables and chairs. If no rake should all be perfectly legal.
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08-01-2022 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ravager 102
Seminole got 2k runners for a 3.5k and 1200 for a 5k last yr. Massive void.

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That's $7m prize pool vs $6m prize pool. Not a huge decline. Also, a 1200 person 5k is huge!

Means it's not crazy that they could get a 500-600 person 10k. 10ks = more prestigious, takes up fewer tables, pays more rake per table, makes it more reasonable for people come in from out of state to play, attracts more medium and high roller players.

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Originally Posted by borg23
big events really died out outside of wsop a decade ago.

I can remember when borgata wpt mains were 10k during the boom.
Random circuit stops would have 5-10k mains. I don't think they'd get close to 300 for a 10k these days.
300 for a 10k is a lot! I'm not saying make every Main a 10k, but if you make some 3.5ks and some 10ks you'll probably attract a different crowd for each and come out ahead overall

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Originally Posted by prizminferno
I do truly believe it's a political thing in northeast blue states where they don't want to run big events out of some irrational covid outbreak fear with people traveling in. In the same light as why people in this area (NE) wear masks, "I don't want people to think I'm a Republican."
It was already like this in 2019 (and earlier), has nothing to do with COVID
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08-01-2022 , 11:51 AM
Huge void, and it's getting kind of annoying. Seems like the best daily/monthly MTT's around NYC is Live! and Rivers. Parx seems to want to run dailies again, but as someone else said, the absence of Big Stax is a tough break for all of us. There used to be some decent tourneys every month at Wind Creek that died off. The stuff running at the Borgata right now is pretty meh, and nothing there seems to even get a guarantee at all. No other tourneys in AC. Maryland Live! seems like the only place that has really taken any initiative to do a series in the last 2 years.

I do think if it's true that these tours supply their own dealers, that is the way to get these events back at venues like The Borgata, Harrah's in AC, Parx, Foxwoods, Encore, etc. We need to not only focus on convincing the casinos that the demand is there, but also the tours, too. I don't know who exactly to contact but I would look into that too (contacting the WPT, WSOP-C, RGPS, Pokerstars, PartyPoker, etc). I do also think vloggers like RDP up there will play a big role in getting people in the area more interested in playing poker, as well. All of it is a good idea
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08-01-2022 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears
That's $7m prize pool vs $6m prize pool. Not a huge decline. Also, a 1200 person 5k is huge!

Means it's not crazy that they could get a 500-600 person 10k. 10ks = more prestigious, takes up fewer tables, pays more rake per table, makes it more reasonable for people come in from out of state to play, attracts more medium and high roller players.



300 for a 10k is a lot! I'm not saying make every Main a 10k, but if you make some 3.5ks and some 10ks you'll probably attract a different crowd for each and come out ahead overall


It was already like this in 2019 (and earlier), has nothing to do with COVID
there have been almost zero tournaments in the northeast. it's nothing like 2019.
parx and borgata used to have 4-5 series a year and have had 0 post covid.
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08-01-2022 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
there have been almost zero tournaments in the northeast. it's nothing like 2019.
parx and borgata used to have 4-5 series a year and have had 0 post covid.
I think the days of both Parx and Borgata running tournament series sadly is over.
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08-01-2022 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
I do think if it's true that these tours supply their own dealers, that is the way to get these events back at venues like The Borgata, Harrah's in AC, Parx, Foxwoods, Encore, etc.
The dealers at at least one of these places are unionized. It is unlikely that you can bring in outside dealers without having them join the union.
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08-01-2022 , 07:33 PM
Playground has weekly tourneys on Mondays and Tuesdays that started recently and a festival going on this week but the standard structure is 10-handed with 20 minute levels and absurdly high rake+fees
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11-22-2022 , 03:14 PM
Looks Like Borgata has jumped back into the swing of things!



https://borgata.mgmresorts.com/conte...t-calendar.pdf
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11-22-2022 , 03:58 PM
You might find this forum useful:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...p-communities/
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11-23-2022 , 01:26 PM
Thx for posting this brian. Great news
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11-28-2022 , 04:34 AM
Borgata is hiring extra dealers for that series so they're preparing for big numbers. Hopefully it goes smoothly and they get back to doing it on a regular basis.
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