Lol excuse me for being lazy but could you elaborate please

I've never been to NewJersey, why do they get a say on what I do in my own home?

Honestly I haven't had time to read the entire thread... Just saw on pokernews they are shutting out US players

and if that's what you read, you have comprehension problems. Just read the thread ffs.

F U NJ even if you could get rid of bovada/ACR its not gonna make your poker rooms succeed.

KGC is a joke.

So this is the reason for the creation of Ignition?

Ignition and Bovada parted ways with Kahnawake on Sept 1 apparently, so it shouldnt interrupt play on Ignition. but they sre no longer being regulated by Kahnawake either, so make of that what you will

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Lol yeah that is what it said in the article. I wonder how much the DGE paid pokernews to post such fear mongering trash.

The KGC has no authority over Bovada or Ignition. Bovada has been giving the middle finger to the US gov for years, I don't expect them to stop now.

Wow, what an awful article - I'm not even going to give it the benefit of a link, as it wasn't hard to find on Google.

Headline:

Two passages:

Then I guess someone pointed out to them that they had already moved their license, but rather than change their headline or doomsday article, they add an edit at the bottom of the article giving the details, and this:

LOL, really? It was quite clear to them that US players were done based on their poorly thought-out analysis of the KGC announcement, but they can't quite make out what the implications of Ignition moving their license might be.

Sigh.

I wonder how much the DGE PokerStars paid pokernews to post such fear mongering trash.

Yea, but don't you still have ACR, Ignition, and a bunch of other sites still available, that are not regulated by Kahnawake ? I don't see unregulated sites EVER disappearing.

.....nor do I. I wish PokerStars had the same moxie. Regulated Poker across the entire country may NEVER happen. More & more I am looking to Bitcoin sites, with ROW player pools for my online poker needs.....

US Govt hasn't been able to stop Bovada/Ignition by now.....I doubt they ever will be able to.

P-Stars obv complied with US Govt for hope of future financial gain, but I wonder if they will ever see that reward. (we cant even get legislation passed in Pennsylvania for cripes sake)

Since Amaya isn't publicly owned, it's no longer about moxie alone.

no ACR in my state (actually I can play but cant deposit or withdraw) or any new accounts on WPN. Ignition yes, and it appears unaffected so we still have that chip

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Not now, but back then....

Wishing they took a hard core approach that no one can regulate The Internet, and playing online poker is not illegal, and therefore we will pull a Bovada, and just keep operating etc....etc....etc

In an ideal world, we would have a player pool EVERYONE in the world can access, with an honest provider of the games.

I don't see it happening in my lifetime via USA Regulated Sites.

We cant even share player pools between NJ and NV for F-sake

Only thru a Bitcoin type site, or Rouge Operator like Bovada/Ignition or ACR.

I had once hoped Poker Stars might revolt and REOPEN access once it saw it was never getting back into the USA Market as deeply as it once was, but alas, you are correct.

Poker Stars is not really PokerStars anymore.

The giant has been slayed.

I'm not sure that's the source, but the bigger issue is what does this mean for future relationships with Indian gaming companies and the DOG / NJDGE? It appears like they are trying to create some good will for future political leverage. I'm pretty sure you understand that doesn't bode super well for online poker in America.

It's all a big game.

KGC was a joke anyways, this won't change anything, these guys make too much money to want to **** it up after what happened with FT/UB/AP

so bovada sports betting and casino arent going to be regulated by Kahnawake going forward?

So should players outside of NJ be worried about this? Do I need to withdraw to be on the safe side?

Another article on Bovada/Ignition "voluntarily" giving up their Kahnawake licences.

www.onlinepokerreport.com/22405/bovada-surrenders-online-gambling-license/


Also, the following, including some thoughts on the impact to unregulated sites other than Bovada.

www.flushdraw.net/news/september-1st-split-kahnawake-bodog-brand-family-confirmed/

This stinks of a backroom deal to me. Basically the KGC says they are working to shut down online poker sites they regulate, and as of september 1st Ignition is not one of those sites.

Basically they sold Bovada to Ignition which is probably run by ex employees or execs of bovada and as a way to keep it going in the US stopped the KGC oversight so it would not be taken down with the others. Actually it is a stroke of genius, because they are basically ensuring the competition goes bye bye...

What competition? The only other worthwhile gray market site that matters doesn't even have a regulator.

How so? If any of their competition is regulated by KGC, they'll just change as well.