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Originally Posted by Sh@i'tan
MeleaB,
It's cool that you are invested in this issue but you have no idea what you're talking about.
Here is a post I made in a thread 40 months ago. 40 months ago.
thread here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...sites-1116939/
I did not even get 200k VPPs In 2011 and I left sites with very good rb deals and softer games because of how big of a problem the NLHE bots were. I do not know how to better illustrate the point that 40 months ago it was a huge problem.
They were winning at ~4bb/100 practicing zero game selection at nl1k. They were not colluding. The bots of today are obviously much better than the bats were back then. They do not need to be colluding. They are crushing nlhe across all sites based on intelligence alone nothing to do with colluding.
At the end of 2011, I thought poker stars was the only site that had anti-bot measures in place. At the end of 2012, it was apparent to me that every single site had a serious bot problem.
Interestingly I was called a troll for suggesting that every single winning regular must have a webcam up at all times while grinding by someone from eastern europe. Things that make you go hmm.
These same people will still deny there is a problem and still call you a troll, just as I was when I revealed i was able to sign in to two devices simultaneously on one account. The level of transparency is alarming. With millions of dollars at stake you are going to constantly be outcast by people dependant on these actions for their livlihood. I am given infractions by 2p2 mods for "derailing" for asking Steve of Pokerstars, in this thread , direct questions about bots, in a bot thread. My questions to asteve of Pokerstars, are erased about bots, in a bot thread. Absolute rubbish. And this is a forum for the player? . But before i get another infraction for merely speaking my mind in a "public forum" outside of Nazi Germany, again, can we get a direct statement from Pokerstars regarding bots? As a customer, you have done nothing to actually address anything remotely informative on the actual bot issue such as
How were bots able to continue for over a year with your sophisticated detection system
How did a normal guy with access to a normal database able to find this
What are you doing about refunds for those effected? What about rakes generated by bots are you resistributing those to the effected players? Not only did players lose money to bots but they generated a rake during those hands too. Where is the 1.5 million dollars?
As a player on your site I am not confident now of your ability or motivation to actually protect me from bots given this thread. Can you kindly provide me and my fellow players with an answer to these questions and any others that have been asked in the last 18 pages.
Great, thanks