Not sure it's next level incompetence like you say. Possibly the dealer has some idiosyncrasies.

Scraping the barrel a bit here. Shrug it off. Squeeze a smile out even. Treat yourself.

Agree w all this. I'd reckon most of the trolls are playing micro-stakes and can't comprehend the possibly life-changing money on the line when you're playing in a $2500 buy in. OP did exactly what he should've done IRL.

But it's not post-worthy imo. This isn't some "new level of incompetence". The WSOP has to bring in a bunch of dealers of varying quality just to fill the tables.

Try playing the dealers' choice events and see what happens on Day 1. The players are basically running the game when the less experienced dealers are in the box. There's too many 6 handed tables to find enough competent dealers that can deal all those games. But by the beginning of Day 2, the dealers were noticeably better. And by the end of Day 2, they were all top notch imo.

If people are truly surprised that there are many, many poor dealers, as well as plenty of great dealers, then they're just naïve and/or completely unrealistic. At WSOP, you take the good w the bad; and pretty much everybody in poker knows that the wide range of competence among dealers is part of the equation.

"New level of incompetence" is a poor choice of words for the thread title.

I don't see incompetence here, I see inappropriateness with the "fake flashing" of cards. As for the jokes, meh, the only one that comes close to crossing the line is the one where she says they should play more hands so she doesn't have to work as hard. I see her humor but technically speaking she is trying to influence how the players are playing.

The jokes are fine. The card flash is not, and a dealer who does that should be taken out of the box.

I think the old bird is hilarious.The last time I was playing cash there,I had three dealers in a row who had never dealt a hand of hold em.I’m not quite sure what you were expecting,but this is far from a new low.

Blackjack starts with two cards, what's so different?

Can one hand flash by mistake help the other players?

Only one hand? Sounds like she was out of order

If it was me and she looked sorry and meant it I would let it go

But if just tried laugh it off like she seem to then you should call floor as she just going take piss out of someone else.

How bout googling the definition of insanity or stop by 2 p2 to gain knowledge instead of being a whining xxxxx. It’s been common knowledge for years thatRios dealers are way below average but u play anyway?

It’s been like this for years but some people think it is suppose to change because they are playing lol.

The trolls came out in force in this thread. Not sure why, the OP has a legit beef.

Complaining about WSOP dealers has always been a dicey play. People will come out of the woodwork to either berate you or agree with you.

Sorry, but it simply is not that cut and dried. If you know what actually happened, maybe you can explain it more clearly that did OP.

Was it a Fake flash that went wrong ?

Did the adverse player actually see OP's hole cards ? (We only know that headphone wearin' OP "heard" hm declare what he supposedly "fake or real" saw.)

Apparently adverse player was comfortable enough with his read and folded before any "flash", fake or real.

Sorry, but someone calling out a guess at an opponent held unseen, after the action, is not that rare,even if correctly called by adverse player and correctly heard by OP.

OTOH, OP is/was a bit tilted about other extraneous remarks an old lady dealer made during her down, none of which related to the action as far as we know.

OP also reported he told the floor, but what the floor did or said, if anything, remains unstated, regardless of whether you consider OP's beef legitimate or a creation of his own imagination.

fyp

I don't know who's more incompetent: OP's dealer, or the people ITT who can't read for ****. If you read his post and thought it meant they weren't really flashed, you need to go back to 3rd grade or something.

Really low especially when you add in the commentary after cheating op. Incompetence is a lack of skills. What the dealer in op's scenario does goes way past incompetence and into cheating/malicious behavior. Incompetence you can explain away with the you get what you pay for/lol wsop stuff. Not this stuff. Terrible.

Ya but a dealer flashing your cards to another player? That's like home game, everyone is drunk and gets a turn at dealing bad.


It's pure trash when we are talking about the biggest poker tourney series ever.

Isn't this inevitable?

An enormous seven-week series where you not only need dealers for the RIO and the WSOP but also the myriad of other events and cash games at multiple casinos around the Strip. If someone is blatantly bad, say something to the floor. If it's something seriously egregious, go as high up as you can. More effective than complaining on 2p2.

fyp.

Thanks for clearing that up, heehaww. Viewed at a third grade level, that makes sense.

Ad hominem insults are always clarifying, "********"

Lol you spend way to much time on this. Continual derail

Yes, the OP was a little tilted from the dealer's actions which had him wondering whether the dealer actually flashed his cards or if his opponent just had a strong read on him. I don't play a lot of high-stakes tournaments, but dealers putting players in that headspace is inherently incompetent.

Here, I'll tell you: The floor nodded and thanked the player for reporting it, made a show of looking towards the general direction of the table, said they'd keep an eye on the dealer, then went back to thinking about an entirely unrelated topic.

It’s always been this bad
It’s this bad this year
It will be terrible again next year.

Maybe not flashing the cards but a similar disruption.

Obviously the dealer was wrong and her move was BS, but the player who was flashed the cards should have shown disgust as well (not chuckle along with her). If I had been in that situation and a dealer flashed somebody else's cards to me, I would have felt extremely uncomfortable and made it well known to the dealer I would not want to see that happen again. I'd also apologize to the player whose cards were flashed (not that I need to apologize for anything, but just to show some respect) so there would be no hard feelings and a dark cloud wouldn't hover over the game. I'd also go far as to tell the other player what I had, just to try and even it out.

Maybe I'm a sucker for doing so, but I like to keep the games as friendly as possible.

was there the first week of june..
i can tell you mistakes of dealers.. and high spots of dealers.

1) Cash game dealer.. didn't know how to make change and didn't understand that the value on the chip was cash value
2) On 2 different occasions im utg seat 10... dealer twice tells the person in the 1 seat that they are to act.. 3 or 4 snap folds before i can say something and Im ruled that I have to fold (significant action)

however one of the brightest spots was in the $1500 horse when a filipino younger lady sits down in the chair and says in a really adorable voice "guy's I apologize in advance Its my first day dealing horse, please be patient with me and try to help me here"

Played daily deepstacks.. tourneys at other casinos, the horse, cash, and can honestly say i was more happier then sad with the dealing.

I think its a bit ignorant of OP to make a topic like this... the sample size/length suggests errors will happen

Trolls are gonna troll. Yes, there are very good and very bad dealers. The lower tier ones are thrown into the deepstacks and daily NLH bracelet events. The better ones do the restarts, mixed games, and higher buyin events. I had to do 19 downs of Razz today with only one break. The benefit of doing the non-holdem events is that you can work longer hours because you aren’t as replaceable as the deepstack dealers. Downside is you sometimes get stuck there on days you wanna get out. I applaud the dealers that are new and trying to learn. Over time, the ones that never wanna improve get weeded out. To me, it never made sense to choose a career and never seek to improve but that’s how it hoes sometimes.

That's like going to Commerce and expecting good dealers. You know the WSOP has green dealers so no reason to have high expectations. Just help them when they make mistakes.

LOL, sooo are they in the habit of hiring the mentally disabled? Maybe it's their policy like my local grocery store. Except at the grocery store they bag my food and not essentially become the banker of the table while I gamble. That's like something out of a comedy skit.