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06-13-2018 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
When I was in vegas I checked it out. Seemed pretty dead. I think at peak times I saw 6 200nl tables going, and 2 or 3 500nl, and one guy opensitting 5/10. plo was worse. no other action besides nlh and plo. can't imagine there's ever gunna be much action unless they can get some high population states to join
Hopefully Pennsylvania, the fifth most populous state, will be joining the pool in 2019. Even now, there are plenty of $1/$2 and $2.5/$5 ring games, and the Sunday major is getting over $150K. It's far from the heydays, but is still really enjoyable.
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06-16-2018 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerarb
As a full-time NJ grinder, I feel like I can offer some unique perspective.

Unequivocally, this is a great step for US-regulated online poker. Ultimately, we want massive interstate compacts with as many states on board as possible, to increase liquidity and the size of the market. This recent news is a giant step in that direction - and the only/best news in years - and for the long-run it is great news, no brainer. My personal hope is that movement in surrounding states will spur New York into action. Once some bigger states are in the picture games can only improve.

At the same time, in the short-run, this is going to create some headache. The status quo is comfortable and stable, and no one really knows what these changes will cause (and I'm sure there will be technical issues at launch). Most concerning is WSOP's decision to eliminate HUDs (not because HUDs are necessary to win), because I suspect, functionally, this will be the elimination of the players' ability to save hand histories locally. This creates a multitude of issues, from making it more difficult to multi-table effectively, review hands, keep financial records, and self-police the games. This is what has me awake at night.

In terms of traffic on other NJ sites, I suspect there will be little change. Many recreational players prefer the Borgata or Pokerstars brand and will continue to login there. The professionals will surely oblige.
I have no interest in playing without a HUD. That said, it's not that hard to keep the required records without a tracker.

I have a big spreadsheet for each poker site where I play. I put in the information for every tournament, and everything is automatically totaled. That's as a back-up for me and, if necessary, the IRS. Also, there are some things that a tracker doesn't pick up, such as bonuses and bounties.

My spreadsheets have the following columns:

Date
Tournament Number
Start
End
Hours
Finish Position
Players
Buy-ins
Rebuys
Add-ons
Re-entries
Cashes
Bounties
Bonus
Tournament Profit or Loss
Income Tax Net Wins
Income Tax Net Losses


All I have to do is fill in the boxes at the end of each tournament. It's easy once it's set up.
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06-16-2018 , 11:09 PM
Trackers (at least HEM 2) pick up bonuses, no clue about bounties but if they are popular I wouldn't be surprised if they have them in there too.


From what I understand to have concrete records your method seems better than a tracker tho as they miss some tourneys/sngs.
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06-17-2018 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
When I was in vegas I checked it out. Seemed pretty dead. I think at peak times I saw 6 200nl tables going, and 2 or 3 500nl, and one guy opensitting 5/10. plo was worse. no other action besides nlh and plo. can't imagine there's ever gunna be much action unless they can get some high population states to join
evening hours during wsop theres been up to 10 500nl games
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06-17-2018 , 04:33 PM
The Michigan House of Representatives has approved state-regulated online poker. It still has to go to the Michigan Senate.

Michigan's population is larger than New Jersey's (9.9 million vs. 9.1) and would certainly be a nice addition to the pool.


https://www.cardschat.com/news/michi...ng-poker-65265

Last edited by Poker Clif; 06-17-2018 at 04:34 PM. Reason: spelling
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06-18-2018 , 04:20 PM
wow, its happening. this is amazing. weed, sports betting, poker coming back. is this real life?
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06-19-2018 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
The Michigan House of Representatives has approved state-regulated online poker. It still has to go to the Michigan Senate.

Michigan's population is larger than New Jersey's (9.9 million vs. 9.1) and would certainly be a nice addition to the pool.


https://www.cardschat.com/news/michi...ng-poker-65265
Solid
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06-23-2018 , 08:11 AM
So confuse with how the interstate sharing work. I am in Delaware and been trying to create a share account. Somehow all I can find is 888NJ which I created and got the you not in NJ message stop before we report you lol wtf..
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06-23-2018 , 09:43 AM
my understanding is you need to go thru 1 of your 3 local casinos sites.
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06-23-2018 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
So confuse with how the interstate sharing work. I am in Delaware and been trying to create a share account. Somehow all I can find is 888NJ which I created and got the you not in NJ message stop before we report you lol wtf..
Just go to the Delaware Park website, and click the link to download the online poker client. Once downloaded, you use the client to set up your account and make your first deposit.
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06-23-2018 , 11:00 AM
So it seemed the PLO tourneys went well yesterday. The bracelet event with $565 buy-in had a $636,000 prize pool with over $130K for first. The online championship series ran a $1K PLO tourney that reached a prizepool of over $200K with $57K going to first.
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06-25-2018 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
So it seemed the PLO tourneys went well yesterday. The bracelet event with $565 buy-in had a $636,000 prize pool with over $130K for first. The online championship series ran a $1K PLO tourney that reached a prizepool of over $200K with $57K going to first.
They really need to change the structure for the bracelet events. The PLO event started at 6:30pm EST and ended at 9:30am EST the following day.

I think the structure is a bit too deep and re-entries available for a bit too long. Hopefully they can fix this for next year, or at least make these events two-day tournaments.
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07-17-2018 , 01:58 PM
i lost rakeback on wsop, anyone else notice this? im not gonna send it a complaint. it was only two dollars from yesterday to today. but i could have sworn it happened last week too. im not sure. anyone notice losing rakeback?
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07-23-2018 , 12:57 AM
How come borgata/party/mgm and pokerstars aren't joining the interstate party?
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07-23-2018 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wait
How come borgata/party/mgm and pokerstars aren't joining the interstate party?
These companies do not currently possess a license to operate real money online games in Nevada or Delaware, only New Jersey.

In order to link-up services to the existing U.S. tri-state market, x-operator must be licensed in each corresponding jurisdiction.
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07-23-2018 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
These companies do not currently possess a license to operate real money online games in Nevada or Delaware, only New Jersey.

In order to link-up services to the existing U.S. tri-state market, x-operator must be licensed in each corresponding jurisdiction.
What are the reasons they don't have a license?
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07-23-2018 , 07:01 AM
Ya Delaware is getting super annoying. I basically has 2 regulated markets that are monopolies at this point. Both of those monopolies are a **** product and with both of them I'm operating in the black market. No Bueno. What's the ****ing point of regulations if it just brings about a **** product monopoly situation in 2 different markets?
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07-23-2018 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wait
What are the reasons they don't have a license?
MGM had a license but they put it on hold in 2013-14 due to poor player pool. Pokerstars was banned in Nevada as a bad actor but they are able to apply for license as of Feb 2018. They probably figure it is not worth it based on the numbers in NV
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09-02-2018 , 07:28 AM
It remains unclear whether Pennsylvania will eventually link to the tri-state compact between NJ/NV/DE (the MSIGA). Here's an article published Friday with a direct quote from the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board.

https://www.onlinepokerreport.com/32...-online-poker/

"While an interstate compact could certainly occur, at this junction I can’t predict or comment on the likelihood.”
(Doug Harbach, PGCB)

Last edited by dhubermex; 09-02-2018 at 07:37 AM.
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09-13-2018 , 05:24 PM
Here's an update and some timestamps from yesterday's Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board (PGCB) meeting.

Due to information revealed by PGCB Exec. Director Kevin O'Toole during the meeting (regarding the iGaming petition process for QGEs), the launch of real money PA online poker games will be in mid-2019, imo.



(16:30-31:50) SugarHouse Pennsylvania iGaming Certificate Hearing

(33:00-46:41) Hollywood Casino Pennsylvania iGaming Certificate Hearing

(47:07-53:00) PA iGaming update from PGCB Exec. Director Kevin O'Toole (Qualified Gaming Entities)

(55:46-56:30) PGCB approves iGaming certificates for SugarHouse & Hollywood casinos

(1:06:43-1:09:52) A land-based casino "lifetime" self-exclusion is reversed by PGCB

(1:24:25-1:42:52) PGCB issues $50,000 fine for two instances (2017) in which patrons became grossly intoxicated while gaming at Mohegan Sun

(1:58:05-2:04:55) Local central PA official makes public comments to PGCB -- reports shenanigans with how local gaming funds (aka "gaming grants") are disbursed. PGCB informs Mr. Connolly that is has no control over how local gaming funds are awarded.
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09-14-2018 , 11:41 AM
could u elaborate on your opinion. I thought licenses were already issued. I thought the recording was speaking about hte unissued licenses remaining. Please help me understand this.
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09-14-2018 , 01:56 PM
Some licenses have been approved, but no PA operator can commence iGaming until given the go-ahead by the Board.

They still have 7 more licenses to sell (at $4 million each), and have to determine who the "Qualified Gaming Entities" are who can apply for one of the remaining permits.

- 3 online poker
- 2 online slots
- 2 online table games

This process alone takes months, as each potential operator still has to submit to rigorous geolocation & other tests, plus get all their "Key Employee" data submitted to the Board, and in the case of QGEs, get their personnel in place locally.

We won't know who the QGEs will be until the "Random Drawing" date, which will only determine which QGEs can 'apply' for one of the licenses. A synchronized PA iGaming launch date is still a few months away at least.

Last edited by dhubermex; 09-14-2018 at 02:17 PM.
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09-14-2018 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
Some licenses have been approved, but no PA operator can commence iGaming until given the go-ahead by the Board.

They still have 7 more licenses to sell (at $4 million each), and have to determine who the "Qualified Gaming Entities" are who can apply for one of the remaining permits.

- 3 online poker
- 2 online slots
- 2 online table games

This process alone takes months, as each potential operator still has to submit to rigorous geolocation & other tests, plus get all their "Key Employee" data submitted to the Board, and in the case of QGEs, get their personnel in place locally.

We won't know who the QGEs will be until the "Random Drawing" date, which will only determine which QGEs can 'apply' for one of the licenses. A synchronized PA iGaming launch date is still a few months away at least.

This is a tedious process. So you are saying that they wont let Stars/888 start operations in PA until they do this lottery for the out of state licenses?
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09-15-2018 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
Some licenses have been approved, but no PA operator can commence iGaming until given the go-ahead by the Board.
I haven't read anything to suggest that iGaming won't commence until all the licensees are approved and ready to launch. As took place in Nevada and New Jersey, I'd expect each online poker brand to launch once it's fulfilled all of the regulatory hurdles. Have you a link to something different?
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09-15-2018 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by apology7
This is a tedious process. So you are saying that they wont let Stars/888 start operations in PA until they do this lottery for the out of state licenses?
No. Rather that the regulatory requirements for each operator need to be fulfilled before the PGCB allows any iGaming operator to "go live," that this might take some time, and in the meantime the date for the QGEs "Random Drawing" will be determined. I shouldn't have used the word "synchronized" in Post #447.

The Board is approving iGaming licenses on a case-by-case basis. However, it is unclear whether an official "iGaming launch date" will be established by the Board in the future once enough certificate holders have satisfied the conditions (several operators already have PA iGaming licenses, but are not green-lit for launch yet), or whether the launch permission will be granted to operators one at a time just like the certificate approvals have been.

For detailed info on all the regulatory conditions each iGaming operator must meet before being approved to launch, CTRL+F the following terms from within the document linked below:

§ 13B29
Commencement of interactive gaming operations

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...ssInd=0&act=42

Last edited by dhubermex; 09-15-2018 at 04:38 PM.
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